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It may not be, it could be what she was doing before Picard comes looking for her.

Potentially, but I'm guessing there's more to it than just Raffi looking at photos. It's a lot easier to ignore Gabe and his family than it is to bring them back into the picture due to the whole fraught estrangement thing - Raffi's not just out of touch with her son, she's been firmly rebuffed and he's gone no contact. So I suspect if Matalas is going through the trouble of bringing up that whole mess back up, it's going to be relevant to the story.
 
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Why limit Trek creatively?
Because Star Trek is a 50+ year old shared universe where up until 2017 canon was taken pretty seriously. 99.9% of all those hours fit together, with the occasional actor recasting, production error, or need to shave a few thousand light years of a distance given notwithstanding. For many Star Trek fans, the top thing they like about the franchise is the interconnected lore.

Even JJ Abrams in ST09 appreciated this, and set up the alternate universe. Back in the day there was this massive debate over whether the Abramsverse / Kelvin Timeline branched off the prime timeline in 2233, or if the Kelvin timeline was a pre-existing parallel universe. Ex Astris Scientia has a great breakdown of the possible options. But as of STB, co-writer Simon Pegg assumed it could have pre-2233 differences.

And of course there is all the breaking of continuity Discovery and SNW do with TOS... which is visually referenced in TNG, DS9, and ENT.

My thing is, if Discovery and SNW want to do their own thing... fine. But if they won't be bound by canon, they shouldn't bind other canon that does recognize 1966-2005 as its backstory, let alone overwrite TOS or the Berman era shows.

Though oddly they keep talking about the Titan-A as if it's the same Titan Riker commanded.
Terry Matalas did have a muddled explanation for if the Stargazer in 201 was a refit or a new ship. Maybe there's bits and pieces of Riker's Titan in the Titan-A?
 
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God no, the character's just sucks.
To boil it down to show terms. Janeway is strong. Kira Neris is strong. Kai Wynn is strong. Deanna Troi is strong.

Burnham's an arse.

Troi strong? Marina Sirtis makes fun of the character! (She's said that Troi's IQ shot up after she got her uniform!)

As for Janeway ... The Fandom Menace called her a raving lunatic!

The Military Committee of NATO's? Every military procurement committee? Starfleet's militaryness is always hilariously vague and at times I feel they should canonically shit or get off the pot and begin divinding themselves back into a "War Fleet" and an "Exploration fleet" like they used to have in the 2200s

I'm not talking about anything NEAR that high-level.

I'm talking about boots on the ground, one-on-one combat where Starfleet is dodging phaser fire and photon torpedoes.

It always irked me that Picard would debate the philosophical ramifications of an issue while the ship was under attack! :mad:
 
Or you could just have an open mind for fluid canon.

SNW keeps connecting itself with the existing canon. heck they make a big deal out of Pike not altering his fate so it stays in line with canon. Discovery has made direct references to the canon everywhere. Including using footage right from TOS and TNG. They're not going to abandon that because some people don't like that they updated the asthetic.

Anyways this isn't the thread for this discussion.
 
How? SFA would most likely be set at the Academy, Prodigy is out and about in space.

A show stuck at the Academy = Boring TV

Star Trek is about SPACE. Prodigy is now occupying the niche that SFA would've filled.

Also how do you know it will be set before Prodigy?

I was talking about the show.

It was in development prior to Prodigy.
 
Or you could just have an open mind for fluid canon.

SNW keeps connecting itself with the existing canon. heck they make a big deal out of Pike not altering his fate so it stays in line with canon. Discovery has made direct references to the canon everywhere. Including using footage right from TOS and TNG. They're not going to abandon that because some people don't like that they updated the asthetic.

Anyways this isn't the thread for this discussion.
My reply to the earlier post is just a brief answer to a question that need not be elaborated on further. I'm aware there was a thread on the TrekBBS that touches on this that went over 20 pages before it was closed. This is probably the greatest divide in the fanbase over Discovery and SNW... and that for all intents and purposes it's not an issue in the Picard series. Even the Discoprise cameo doesn't have a clear registry number, so that's open to plausible deniability and creative interpretation.
 
We didn't get that with Discovery, what we got was an achingly GIRLBOSS protagonist (since when have Trek shows ever had THAT? It's always been about the ensemble cast problem solving together) and its written the usual horrible way Hollywood writes "strong women" which is just the tropes of "toxic male with boobs" to the point Burnham was verging on obnoxious marysue ism. She knew better than everyone else, could solve better than nearly everyone else and the rest of the cast, such as they were developed, mainly hung about to be a foil to Burnham. Oh and she's SPOCKS HUMAN SISTER! REMEMBER SPOCK TREKKIES? YOU LIKE SPOCK DONT YOU? Pleastunein.

The character as written (zero disrespect to Sonequa Martin-Green, she's a fine actress) either shouldn't be anywhere near a star ship unless its enjoying the walls of a brig, or needed a lot more of her hubris beaten out of her by the rest of the crew before being even allowed to come clean the coffee cups off of the bridge. She hasn't had the kind of character arc that even Tom Paris got in Voyager to get rid of his arrogance, and that show was written in such a way to be ruthlessly syndicated in any order.

a) First and foremost, leave the ranting at Disco in the Disco forum.
b) If you take it there, I'd suggest coming up with better-articulated criticisms of Burnham that don't read like misogyny.
 
The officer in red shooting the Yellow shirt, it's not Riker, I don't think it's the Titan Captain either
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so that's open to plausible deniability and creative interpretation.
Which is how Trek should be. This is art not history. Strict recreation is not required.
A show stuck at the Academy = Boring TV

Star Trek is about SPACE. Prodigy is now occupying the niche that SFA would've filled.
This assumes the Academy is only at San Francisco.
 
Even the Discoprise cameo doesn't have a clear registry number, so that's open to plausible deniability and creative interpretation.
Heh .. Except that the Producers/Creators have said on several occasions that it's all part of the same timeline.

You don't have to accept it, but there's no excuse you can give to make your reasoning plausible other than artistic license.
Which in no way changes what the producers have stated.
 
A show stuck at the Academy = Boring TV

Star Trek is about SPACE. Prodigy is now occupying the niche that SFA would've filled.

I don't think an Academy show would necessarily need to be bound to Earth, at least not all the time. For example, if the show decided to follow the adventures of a Red Squad-esque group, there would probably be a split between space missions testing the characters' mettle and college hijinks. It'd be different, but hey, DS9 got flack for being stuck in one place, and the writers managed OK. ;)
 
I don't think an Academy show would necessarily need to be bound to Earth, at least not all the time. For example, if the show decided to follow the adventures of a Red Squad-esque group, there would probably be a split between space missions testing the characters' mettle and college hijinks. It'd be different, but hey, DS9 got flack for being stuck in one place, and the writers managed OK. ;)

Right now, Prodigy is doing THAT in spades.
 
We've already seen Star Fleet cadets being taken out on actual starship maneuvers.
(The Wrath of Khan)
An Academy show doesn't have to be completely earthbound by any means.
 
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