Final Reflection onscreen

[IRW Bloodwing]

Maybe I'm misreading @IRW Bloodwing 's point, but I read that as them saying that SW has more items from tie-in material that were added into on-screen works ("additions"), in keeping with the general subject of this thread, and as direct follow-up to @hbquikcomjamesl 's claim that ST has more tie-in fiction. (ie - "ST may have more, but SW has more things that ended up on screen".)

Granted, I have no idea if that claim is true or not, since I don't read SW novels. But that seems to be the claim being made, at least to me. (Although it is of course possible that I'm misinterpreting.)

Star Wars has, as near as I can tell, more both in terms of tie-ins AND tie-in stuff that snuck into canon.The count on the latter would run into the dozens, easily, if not much more.

Trek has been notoriously stingy in that regard, prior to the modern era. In fact, the PTB made it a point NOT to raid the tie-in stuff (though one or two things did sneak through, like the use of one of the old FASA starship designs on a computer readout in TNG Season 1).

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Trek has been notoriously stingy in that regard, prior to the modern era. In fact, the PTB made it a point NOT to raid the tie-in stuff (though one or two things did sneak through, like the use of one of the old FASA starship designs on a computer readout in TNG Season 1).

The story of how "Hikaru" was canonized is a case of "things did sneak through."

Peter David was visiting the set of Star Trek VI when they were filming George Takei's scenes on the Excelsior. Peter and George were old friends at that point, Peter mentioned to George, "You know, Sulu has a first name in the fiction," and George used it on his own.

I'm sure they'd do it anyway.

Honestly, even if one of the series adapted one of the novels fairly directly I wouldn't expect the novelist to receive an acknowledgement, let alone any sort of story credit. (WGA has rules on story credits.) Nor would they get an invite to the premier. Maybe a producer might mention them in an interview.

In some ways, I'm surprised televised Star Trek doesn't mine from the tie-ins (novels and comics) more that it does; the studio owns the material, and it's a massive IP farm they can dig into at will. But producers and writers rooms might also have a "Not invented here" attitude, so unless someone in the writers room was a fan of a particular tie-in work and wanted to play with it -- say, taking Probe and using it with Disco -- the idea of mining the tie-ins wouldn't even cross the mind.

 

[Tallguy]

Honestly, even if one of the series adapted one of the novels fairly directly I wouldn't expect the novelist to receive an acknowledgement, let alone any sort of story credit.

Didn't Diane Duane get a credit on Where No One Has Gone Before?

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Didn't Diane Duane get a credit on Where No One Has Gone Before?

Yes, she wrote the first draft of the script with Michael Reeves. That's why she received the credit. WGA rules.

 

[Therin of Andor]

And besides, Ford is beyond caring about royalties, and has been for many years. For the same reason that we don't have any definitive word on tunes for a lot of the songs in How Much For Just the Planet.

Because he passed away (for those who didn't know). I did get to chat with Mike (aka John M Ford) about the songs at a convention in Australia. My two friends were huge musical theatre fans and Mike was astounded by how much they had picked up. (Our plan to delve deeper into the book never happened and they are no longer a duo.)

http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/p/how-much-for-just-planet-search-for.html

Please let me know of any updates!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

TFR is probably my favorite Trek novel, but I can't believe I didn't get this before now:

Spoiler

Zharn, the mind-wiped Klingon assassin, is responsible for the deaths of Admiral van Diemen and Maxwell Grandisson III.

I mean, it's obvious when you think about it. So how the fresh hell did I miss that?