Ferengi Military

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by The Overlord, Dec 29, 2012.

  1. Ríu ríu chíu

    Ríu ríu chíu Fleet Admiral Admiral

    May 10, 2005
    Mr. Laser Beam is in the visitor's bullpen
    I don't think it's a stretch to assume that the Ferengi really do have a well organized military force. There could be a lot of profit in it - being in the space service could pull in a hefty salary, and protecting the shipping lanes and trade routes would also be very profitable.

    That being said, we do know that there are Ferengi who like things other than pure profit. For instance there's the Eliminators - hired killers - who are viewed as dangerous psychopaths because they enjoy killing in and of itself, more than the profits gained thereby. So perhaps the military are viewed the same way - as aberrant because they enjoy serving the Ferengi state itself, more than any money they might make.
  2. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Vice Admiral Admiral

    Nov 20, 2012
    I would assume the Farengi have a privatized military.

    There's no unified military, there's a lot of individual militias funded by the rich people who need them. So some of them must have acquired very powerful ships.

    I wish they'd brought back the whips from Last Output. Those were cool.
  3. publiusr

    publiusr Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Mar 22, 2010
    I'm calling it something like the navy of the Confederacy.
  4. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Aug 26, 2003
    True, but as said, doctrinal-political reasons prevent it from serving in the commerce protection role.

    Only in the sense that individual vessels can transit across oceans; the same is true of basically every navy out there, with tiny gunboats being hauled from the manufacturing country to the user country in a completely non-operational manner. The Korean vessels lack national support assets allowing actual operations in distant waters; the Royal Navy has those assets, even if in dwindling numbers, and has traditionally operated ships of longer individual reach from a global network of national bases anyway.

    True enough, but something of a special case in commerce protection, largely ineffective and symbolic, and not particularly related to the capacity to protect national commerce in an "actual" crisis. Not that classic convoy protection would really serve a purpose nowadays, regardless of the nature of the crisis; technology has moved past such things already.

    How is commerce raiding countered in Star Trek? We have seen two convoy battles, in "Rules of Engagement" and "Sons and Daughters", with WWI-style tactics where the escorting vessel scrambles to meet the attackers and leaves the transports defenseless. That's very different from how convoys today would fight, with "fortress ships" keeping close to the proteges and fighting back with long-range weapons - but Star Trek doesn't seem to have that sort of weapons technology. Would the Ferengi escort merchant ships? Or would the merchant ships be their own escorts - i.e. would trade take place with those mighty D'kora Marauders in times of crisis, or perhaps even on a regular basis? We don't really know what it takes to keep trade flowing in Trek, or even whether keeping trade flowing is a worthwhile pursuit. For the Ferengi, loss of commercial shipping might well be somebody else's problem, or indeed everybody else's problem; the Ferengi would just wait for the profits, or alternately the insurance money, as the goods themselves would matter nothing to them.

    Timo Saloniemi
  5. Star Wolf

    Star Wolf Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Mar 14, 2003
    ciudad de Los Angeles
    Aside from the war against the Dominion I would not say that commerce protection nor shipping lane protection would need the level of commitment shown in the Earth world wars against the submarine threat. It is more in line of protecting against Somali pirates. If a starship is in the area then Starfleet takes an interest and shadows the threat. Now does the Grand Nagus control enough assets to do the same leading to a Ferengi military? Or would the Nagus secure in the knowledge that Starfleet will do the heavy lifting have a smaller private contractor based military?

    From what I have seen a Marauder privateer being paid by the insurance company or merchant prince and occasionally seizing a prize would be the Ferengi form of military. Just enough guns on a merchantman to deter the easy loss and with the occasional cruiser visit to knock down the pirates best technology. As the Japanese and South Korean analogy goes would the Federation stand aside anymore the the US Navy will stand aside if the Russian fleet were to target Japanese ships? Serbian ships?.....
  6. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

    Jul 23, 2001
    The Ferengi in the Enterprise episode Acquisition did have energy whips. Also, Quark's Marauder Mo action figures did include an energy whip accessory.
  7. timmy84

    timmy84 Commodore Commodore

    May 5, 2003
    I forget what its called (I just remember congress) but the leading council in the alliance (which the nagus leads) is of corporate CEOs. So I can believe that the ferengi military is not run by there state, but could be used by the corporations on behalf of the state. Although the state pre Rom seemed to be non existent and was only their to ensure the free flow of the economy and to enforce what few laws existed.