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Feelings Halfway Through The Series

And to be honest it'd been a few episodes since it even seemed to be much of an issue between them.



Yeah but the whole point of having an arc means that on some level people need to know it's there. Even S1 of Babylon 5 had things that it was obvious would be called back on. I don't mind subtle, but at the moment it's non-existent!

At the end of year five, it’s revealed we have been watching the second missy all along. It explains the morality lapses. The snap regen was actually a jump cut. This also explains why the Tardis was so far away...it’s actually the masters Tardis. The Missy Doctor actually doesn’t know she’s really missy.
Where’s the actual Doctor?
That’s the next five year arc.

This is of course an entirely non serious comment, and should be treated as such.

I do not think there is an arc at the moment. Not even a ‘setting things up for next few years’ arc a la Babylon 5 or Matt Smith era (into Capaldi...it’s amazing how some of that stuff all neatly dovetails, given its blatantly obvious some of it was changed and made up on the fly. Also...the Doctors name cannot be Doctor Who, because that didn’t open the edifice..sorry I mean Tardis...on trenzalore.)
 
Yeah but the whole point of having an arc means that on some level people need to know it's there. Even S1 of Babylon 5 had things that it was obvious would be called back on. I don't mind subtle, but at the moment it's non-existent!

Perhaps, but, maybe the first step in his five year plan was to establish these characters and the new tone of the show.
Until Chibnall says anything, we don't know. We only operate under assumptions.

And to be frank, this thread was the first time I heard he had a five year plan. Or at least pitched one.
 
I do remember early on after his announcement that there was some talk about the five-year plan but I think it was from only one interview and then we didn't hear about again.
 
I do remember early on after his announcement that there was some talk about the five-year plan but I think it was from only one interview and then we didn't hear about again.

It was actually the BBC's plan for the next five years in terms of marketing and merchandising. There was never a Chibnall Masterplan.
 
It was actually the BBC's plan for the next five years in terms of marketing and merchandising. There was never a Chibnall Masterplan.

Dolls. And a clothing range. Who said the bbc can’t think ahead.....(actually I may have imagined the clothing range.)
Tbh it’s interesting they are rebranding older stuff, and it will curious if we get novels picking up again.
 
It was actually the BBC's plan for the next five years in terms of marketing and merchandising. There was never a Chibnall Masterplan.

Sigh. With this information how will we all be upset and argue about this now non existent five year plan!? You and your facts.
 
Sigh. With this information how will we all be upset and argue about this now non existent five year plan!? You and your facts.

Give me five minutes. I am sure we can find something.
I’ll say something that can be surface read as controversial, and we’ll be off again.

How about...

I don’t like the New Years scarf, it’s not remotely a call back to Baker, and it just looks like Jane from Rod Jane and Freddy has been cast as the Doctor?
That should do it.
 
"Oh, the Doctor's wearing a scarf. It's a nod to Tom Baker."

No, it's just to indicate that it's cold.
 
Give me five minutes. I am sure we can find something.
I’ll say something that can be surface read as controversial, and we’ll be off again.

How about...

I don’t like the New Years scarf, it’s not remotely a call back to Baker, and it just looks like Jane from Rod Jane and Freddy has been cast as the Doctor?
That should do it.

No. Try: Baker’s scarf was as rubbish as he was.
 
I really hope that's just Mirror garbage and not the truth because I don't want that to be true. Bleah.
 
Yeah, New Year's Day versus the Daleks seems like a good way to buoy ratings. It also may be a capitulation for Chibnall. "I'll use them in 2019! But they aren't appearing in my 2018 season!"

While the "redesign" thing is a pretty generic guess. I would love to see something like a scale back to the classic grey, blue, gold Daleks.

I've had the feeling that, even if the special isn't about the Daleks, they'll be the stinger for series 12.
 
I think it's interesting that Season 5, while possessing a lot of Moffat-isms, still made an effort to reassure viewers that they were still watching the same show. There was the overall structure of 13 episodes with 3 2-parters and everything building up to an epic 2-part finale. There were returning monsters and returning writers. "The Eleventh Hour" carried a vibe very reminiscent of RTD's premieres.

On the other hand, Chibnall has shown very little affinity for the show's past, whether the recent past or the classic series. I'm surprised that he didn't hedge his bets by bringing back an old favorite monster or two. And I'm kinda disappointed that he didn't let writers like Gatiss and Whithouse keep their seats at the table. And what about Sarah Dollard? Wasn't she supposed to be one of the rising stars of this franchise?

I wasn't basing it on anything concrete, since I only knew Chibnall from his Who and Torchwood work, but I've been speculating that in the years to come, people would tend to look at RTD and Moffat's tenures as one big era for the show, and the differences between them wouldn't stand out as much once we had Chibnall's (and his eventualy successors') episodes to compare with on the other end. I think a lot of the people who had strong opinions about one versus the other (and I include myself in that group) were downplaying the continuity in style between the two of them as being an inevitability of 21st century Doctor Who that any showrunner would do, and not evidence of similar sensibilities.
 
Yeah, New Year's Day versus the Daleks seems like a good way to buoy ratings. It also may be a capitulation for Chibnall. "I'll use them in 2019! But they aren't appearing in my 2018 season!"

While the "redesign" thing is a pretty generic guess. I would love to see something like a scale back to the classic grey, blue, gold Daleks.

I've had the feeling that, even if the special isn't about the Daleks, they'll be the stinger for series 12.

"Losing the bronze look" could mean....[shudder]this lot[/shudder]

Teletubby Daleks 1a.jpg
 
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