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Federation First Contact.

GalaxyClass1701

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Would you read this?

A series of full novels obviously done by pocket or two stories in one (like Worlds od DS9) that deal with either Humans or the Federations first contact with Various species.

For example:

The Bolians
The Sheliac
The Cardassians
The Breen

Ect.
 
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Depends upon who wrote it.

Most fanfic I've read is just dreck, no offense. Give the above stories to the Regular Writing Staff and publish it in an anthology and we'll see what happens.

That being said, I'd enjoy reading a well-written story regarding first contact with the Cardassians.
 
^Well, since it was posted in this forum, I'd assume the intent of the suggestion is a professional anthology published by Pocket. If the intent were to suggest fanfic, it would've been posted in that forum.
 
Depends upon who wrote it.

Most fanfic I've read is just dreck, no offense. Give the above stories to the Regular Writing Staff and publish it in an anthology and we'll see what happens.

That being said, I'd enjoy reading a well-written story regarding first contact with the Cardassians.

Oh let make clear I want a real author to write it not me. Iwas just wondering if there is an interest on the topic enough for a book:cool:
 
^Well, since it was posted in this forum, I'd assume the intent of the suggestion is a professional anthology published by Pocket. If the intent were to suggest fanfic, it would've been posted in that forum.

The OP did not specify if he was referring to fanfic submissions or something akin to another SNW contest or an anthology by the published authors, and so I did not labor under a potentially false assumption.

I merely answered his single question, which was, "Would you read this?", and gave the qualifier I mentioned. I don't hang out in the fanfic forum on a regular basis, but have occasionally observed ideas with potential. Sadly, the overwhelming majority of stuff I've taken the time to read has fallen short in execution.

No, I don't think I can do a better job, and I have no interest in writing for Trek, thanks anyway. I'll leave it to the pros, who do a good enough job as-is, most of the time. FWIW, I'm about 1/3rd of the way through DTI. We'll discuss later.

But, hey, while you're here, do you know if anyone has tackled Cardassian first contact in the TrekLit universe?

GalaxyClass1701, yes, I would be interested in such a professional anthology, with the qualifier mentioned. Thank you for clarifying. :)
 
I'm all for stories about the Federation's first contact with species we have never seen before...new worlds, new civilizations, that kind of thing.

What would be nice for the Trek historians is an "Encyclopedia Galactica" that would summarize events like Bolian first-contact in short entries.
 
The OP did not specify if he was referring to fanfic submissions or something akin to another SNW contest or an anthology by the published authors, and so I did not labor under a potentially false assumption.

Yes, he did specify what he was referring to. He specified it by posting his suggestion in this forum instead of Fan Fiction. The BBS has different forums for a reason. If you see a thread posted in the Doctor Who forum, you can assume it is not a thread about Battlestar Galactica, and vice versa. The poster doesn't have to specifically say so, because it's implicit in the overall topic of the forum. Same with Trek Lit versus Fan Fiction.


But, hey, while you're here, do you know if anyone has tackled Cardassian first contact in the TrekLit universe?

The Wildstorm graphic novel Enter the Wolves by Howard Weinstein and A. C. Crispin dealt with a very early interaction between the Cardassians and the Federation, but it wasn't the very first contact, I think. We do know there was a Cardassian expatriate poet living on Vulcan during the 22nd century, but the poet was an exile and thus could've been far from home, the only one of his kind known at the time. I don't think that would represent a first contact with the Cardassian civilization or nation.
 
Would you read this?

A series of full novels obviously done by pocket or two stories in one (like Worlds od DS9) that deal with either Humans or the Federations first contact with Various species.

For example:

The Bolians
The Sheliac
The Cardassians
The Breen

Ect.

I'm a sucker for these types of stories. I'd love someone's take on FC w/ the Trill, Bolians, & several more I can't think of right now.
 
I would read an anthology series or even a single self contained book dealing with this kind of subject material. Other species first contact with each other might be interesting.
 
I would definitely read this. I've always wondered about the first contacts with these races.
How much do we know about when they first encountered those races?
 
humans had met Deltans in the 22nd century (Bound, ENT, Travis mentions meeting them as a kid)

Trills were known in the 23rd (Trials and Tribble-ations, DS9, and GKN Honour Bound. Dax was on Earth in the 23rd and met McCoy, an episode of Battlecruiser Vengeance features a 'Trill' with spots all over its face as one of its poor-quality Federates)

Cardassians already mentioned, one was known on Vulcan in the 22nd

Bolians... not sure...
 
... Cardassian first contact....

I know some others have given brief answers already, but this came up in the DS9 forum not long back, so I'll repost from that. :)

I suppose it depends on how "official" the contact is, or the degree of knowledge the Federation has. It's likely that the Federation worlds knew of a nation called Cardassia for decades if not centuries before official contact. At least, they knew that a world by that name was out there. Cardassia was, we've been told, part of the galactic community in some capacity as early as the 22nd century ("Enterprise" established that Cardassians had enough space-going capability to reach Organian haunts by then, and as others in this thread have noted, Iloja of Prim lived on Vulcan during that period). However, because Cardassia was presumably not a planet of note - just one of thousands of unremarkable worlds - it probably got entered into records without anyone in the Federation core sectors bothering with it or making official contact. A Vulcan ship trades with a Kressari ship, say, which previously traded with a Cardassian outpost - the Vulcans enter Cardassia into their cultural database as a minor, somewhat distant planet with which their trade partners interact. It was just a world out there somewhere beyond the Kalandra sector/Trill space. Or so I assume. I also assume Federation citizens and Cardassians no doubt met every now and then, but never officially, and their governments weren't concerned with each another. By the 2310s, however, it changes, because now the military expansion is beginning. Cardassia is no longer just an unremarkable world but a nascent local power.

We've had 2327 given as official first contact in several novels, including The Art of the Impossible (building on "Enter the Wolves", and TAotI indeed directly references the Legara conference from EtW, as does Well of Souls). Then there was 2321 given by a Maquis in The Brave and the Bold as the real first contact between Federation and Cardassian interests - civilian exchange on outer colonies, before the governments or militaries got involved, and Day of the Vipers hints at ship-based contact, fly-bys and skirmishes, for over a decade before that.

So, I assume that ships identified as Cardassian begin getting involved in fights with Federation-affiliated vessels along the border region around about the 2310s. Eventually, official first contact is made in 2327, after a few decades of unofficial "buzzings" and border incidents (and snooping around Bajor, according to Day of the Vipers). And then Cardassia blows any chance of good relations with its treachery at Legara, which in turn leads the Detapa Council and Obsidian Order to try and mend the relationship by having the UFP mediate the Betreka conflict the following year (TAotI).

Basically, while Cardassia had been know for centuries, it was only in the early 24th century that it became notable and invited official contact, and only then did it become anything other than an unremarkable border world among thousands of unremarkable border worlds.

Or so I assume. :)
 
Bolians... not sure...

One shows up in Vanguard, but only one. The next apperance I recall, internal chronology-wise, is in In The Name of Honor (2287), where it's explicitly mentioned a Bolian officer is one of the first Bolians in Starfleet. Then another lone Bolian shows up in The Last Roundup (2294), and by the 2310s or 2320s they seem common.

When does the Harriman/Vokar flashback in Serpents Among the Ruins take place, because a Bolian officer featured there?

Enterprise mentioned the Ferengi had contact with Bolians, which of course just adds to the headache of "Ferengi, where were you these last two centuries?" Of course, Watching the Clock just gave an answer to that, in a throwaway line or two (don't worry, not a spoiler).

Still, it seems the old blue baldies were just starting to interact with the UFP in Kirk's time but weren't yet members. By around 2320 they seem to be in.
 
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