Favorite Prequel Movie
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Honestly, the fact that I don't care about the characters. At least for me. Obi-Wan is the closest, but there are aspects of his character that I find aggravating. None of the others are particularly endearing, and it took the novels to make me care more about Anakin.I found that the flash, stilted acting and cartoonish themes of the prequels fit perfectly well with the old z-grade Saturday-afternoon matinee serials that Star Wars was supposed to be patterned after in the first place. So what's the big deal?
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Star Wars also didn't feel as fun to me, especially ROTS. I can still remember watching TPM and wondering if I was missing something. It just wasn't enjoyable for me, and I was 11 at the time!
AOTC felt closer with the investigation subplot, and even the awkward romance had a certain weird charm to it that I at least understood.
Don't get me wrong-I can find fun in the PT, but it isn't as present for me as the OT.
I don't necessarily agree with Simon Pegg's comments but I have heard from enough friends and other Star Wars fans to know that the emotion and hurt runs very deep.
If Star Wars is something that you take so seriously that it can actually cause you deep emotional pain, then you owe it to yourself to stop for a second and give your whole life and existence a good thought or two.
You underestimate the human potential for emotional attachment. People feel pain for innumerable reasons and you are not the arbiter of which things they are allowed to have feelings about.
No.
Hey, I have feelings for Star Wars too... But there's a line. I won't be the arbiter of where exactly that line is, but still, getting deeply hurt by fictional shit is taking it too far.
They aren't upset about the fiction of it, they're upset that this thing that was a very real part of their childhood and part of the foundation for the person they grew up to be has "moved on" without them and become unrecognizable. You can have those feelings without being some emotionally stunted man-child who needs to get on with their life; though as an emotionally stunted man-child myself, I'm sure it helps.
This is exactly what I meant by "taking it too far". This is taking it WAY too far. You talk about Star Wars like (to quote the great American poet Mos Def), it's some giant living in the hillside, coming down to visit the townspeople... .
It's not mine to judge, but this really doesn't seem healthy.
^ Alrighty then, how do you feel about Trek fans who keep whining about how JJ Abrams raped their childhood?
Possibly, but that doesn't change the emotions that are there. Many individuals have emotional attachments to things that don't make rational sense. Entertainment is among them because the emotion is often positive, formed very young, and associated with something enjoyable.
It's the same emotion that individuals often express when they claim ownership over a property. In reality, Hollywood companies owe fan bases nothing but there is often a frustration because of the emotional connection.
I'm not saying its healthy, because, I've been a part of enough fan groups to get an idea of how far it can go. But, I'm also not a fan of "suck it up" psychology without dealing with the root.
I'm with Mach5. If you think the prequels, or Lucas himself, hurt you deeply and emotionally then it's time to rethink how you're approaching these films.
Personally, I kinda felt hurt by the Enterprise finale, but that's only because I was committed to that show for four years, and I felt like I was denied closure. It almost felt like the writers were mocking me. But hey, I dismissed that episode from my own personal canon, bitched about it online like your average fanboy and moved on to other things.
Star Wars is a whole other thing. I've been a fan all my life, it's a part of who I am. I have real, actual feelings for that universe, but I still cannot perceive it as more than just a fictional universe I like to get lost in from time to time.
To get attached to it as if it were a living. breathing human being... I'm not sure I can even comprehend it, let alone identify.
Attachment takes many forms. It isn't the same as an emotional connection to a human being (or perhaps it is, I would have to sit down with Pegg in session to know) but the emotions are what are there.
I know many individuals who feel a thrill about a variety of people felt with different things, and Star Wars is among them. They based their life goals and careers on the thrill and the emotion of watching those films.
Regardless of if I share the emotion, I can at least understand that emotion in a way that I can get where the person is coming from.
I don't know Pegg and I don't know why Star Wars runs so deep, but that doesn't invalidate his emotions that are there. Agree, disagree or don't care, but there is something there.
Personally, I would rather he seek professional help if the pain is bugging him that much, but I'm a big fan of counseling.
Negative. It didn't go in. Just impacted on the surface.
If it helps, Brannon Braga has apologized for that episode and said it was a terrible ending for Enterprise.
Almost every ounce of frustration and spite I had for Braga and Rick Berman right after "TATV" aired has evaporated over the years. Brannon's brutal confessions and airing of his own grievances with the network, the studio and even himself and his own failings in some of the DVD and Blu ray extras accompanying the series have, dare I say, endeared the man to me in a way I wouldn't have thought possible in the wake of the ENT finale and the series' cancellation.
The guy has his flaws and fell into some bad, sloppy and repetitive habits in writing episodes, but he seems to have done the best he could under all the pressure he, Rick and others received from Paramount and UPN. He made some stupid mistakes and greenlit episodes that should never have aired ("Precious Cargo" seems to be his least-favorite episode, and possibly not just of ENT but of the entire television history of the Trek franchise), but the days of fans like myself wanting to toss darts and insults at the guy are over.
He's fessed up to his own mistakes and admitted he made bad choices, and that's all we can ask for.
The guy has his flaws and fell into some bad, sloppy and repetitive habits in writing episodes, but he seems to have done the best he could under all the pressure he, Rick and others received from Paramount and UPN. He made some stupid mistakes and greenlit episodes that should never have aired ("Precious Cargo" seems to be his least-favorite episode, and possibly not just of ENT but of the entire television history of the Trek franchise), but the days of fans like myself wanting to toss darts and insults at the guy are over.
He's fessed up to his own mistakes and admitted he made bad choices, and that's all we can ask for.
So much win in this sector!
I know, and I have forgiven him.
Absolutely. It's not like he can go back in time and undo TATV. I just wished he got the chance to redeem himself...
Not to derail a Star Wars Prequel thread, but I thought that Mach5 and a few others might find these videos insightful. Brannon speaks out about his feelings and frustrations and gives some context to some of the issues we liked to complain about.
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