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Fans, why do you like TOS?

Warped9

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As a TOS fan I'm well aware of why I love the show.

But I'd like to hear why others like the show. All their diverse reasons. I suppose I'm partly curious how similar as well as how different the reasons may be.

So I'm not here to argue with anyone but rather to listen. Of course that doesn't preclude you from arguing with each other. :lol:

Seriously, though, why do you like TOS?
 
The underlying meaning and message of the stories continue to be relevant and thought provoking and, dammit, I just love a good space adventure!! The show had a lot of heart.
 
TOS was by far the most imaginative, smart and fun science fiction TV show I'd ever seen, in 1966.

The only series that really exceeded it, in some respects, was the original Twilight Zone, which I think was higher in some ways on the "imaginative" and "smart" ends of the spectrum but not nearly as much fun or as adventurous - from the POV of one thirteen-year-old kid, anyway.

The closest thing to it in the latter respects, for me, would have been the first year or so of "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea" - but "closest" is not at all the same thing as "close" in this instance.
 
The closest thing to it in the latter respects, for me, would have been the first year or so of "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea" - but "closest" is not at all the same thing as "close" in this instance.
First season Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, really? I don't remember it well enough I'm afraid that far back.
 
Perhaps I like it because I love it. I fell in love when a child. No gettin' over that. Why did it appeal to me at ages six, nine, twelve? Who can say?

So maybe my love colors my perceptions, but TOS' positives:

a. good stories
b. good writing, meaning the words on the page, moreso than any other Trek series
c. interesting characters who conflict at times
 
I like TOS because of the optimism. Mankind will solve its problems in the future.

And the chicks were hot. :drool:
 
I always liked the stories, the characters, and the ship! :rommie:

I got into this show when I was 6 years old, back in 1980, as I had already had a thing for space in general. I used to read astronomy books and such(yes even at that age), so the first time I saw Star Trek I was immediately into it.

As I got older I realized that the girls were REALLY hot in nearly every episode. :techman:

Bri :rommie:
 
I fell hard for the original Star Trek when I watched "The Man Trap" for the first time. It seemed like "The Twilight Zone" in space (maybe my favorite show of all time)- it contained philosophy, humanism, intriguing, spooky stories, and a great aesthetic quality. I was watching the movie "Forbidden Planet" last night and it obviously influenced TOS, but what it really is missing is babes in short skirts and candy-colored sets and action sequences :lol:- thanks for filling the void Gene.
 
I fell in love with it because at the time it was "forbidden fruit" My first memory of TOS is Sulu running down the corridor with no shirt and with a sword. My dad then changed the channel and said that the show was too violent for us to watch yet. I was 3 or 4 at the time and all i wanted to do was see more of that. When we were allowed to watch it i just ate it up. I love the stories and the characters. I'm sure some of my love for the show is fueled by nostalgia but it was and still is a good show.
 
I love it because:

1) The camp factor. It's fun to watch and giggle at silly fight sequences. Especially when Kirk uses his all-mighty buttpunch.
2) The stories. Most of the episodes did have great stories, many of which leave you biting your nails in suspense or screaming at the TV because something unexpected happened.
3) The characters and the way they interact. This is something most shows miss today; realistic and likable characters. And the camaraderie is just phenomenal, especially with Kirk, Spock, and Bones. Their friendship is something truly beautiful, something that shows today just don't have.

I'm pretty new to the Trek-verse, but this is why I love the show.
 
I have a special place for it for two reasons: As a young kid in the 70s, I could only choose from 4 or 5 channels on my little B&W set, and TOS was on one of the UHF channels opposite the evening crime/weather/sports blather that my parents generally watched on the living room TV; as I got older, I appreciated the characters, artistry, and intelligence of the series, especially in the first season. Most 70s and 80s shows were blown-dry and witless, but TOS showed smart, interesting people doing smart, interesting things -- and it wasn't a detriment to be so nor to associate with people of different races or back grounds.

By the time I was in high school, it was the Stallone/Cruise/Schwarzenneger era, where heroes all had to look like ridiculous action figures from some whitebread suburban nightmare of brandname shoes and designer jeans. TOS was still a bastion of sanity because as heroic as its characters were, by comparison they all seemed of human proportion, and as ridiculous as some of the later episodes were, the characters never seemed as ridiculous as some clown who seemed like he took steroids, worked out five hours a day, and could barely speak English.

People bash the special effects and aesthetics, but in doing so they generally lose sight of just how grounded the show was, even when it drifted into the sillier areas that were vogue in the late 60s. I never found anything in TOS any more ridiculous than the idea of some slow-moving guy as bulky as a professional wrestler getting shot at by 20 people and not taking a single hit while mowing everyone else down with a machinegun that magically never runs out of bullets. On the other hand, when Kirk looked weary, as though he suffered from the multitude of life-and-death decisions he made daily, and could vacillate between friendliness, irritation, and anger because of the pressure he was under and the stakes of the situation, I believed him as well as in him. I wasn't paying attention to the so-called cardboard sets because there was nothing cardboard about the people, nor the actors playing them, nor the scripts that often managed to be fun without dumbing anything down.

That era is gone, however. A few shows, like Southland and Law and Order, are of similar caliber, but even then, I too often find the ideas more compelling than the characters or actors who are playing them. Whatever magic that was a part of the 1950s and 60s is essentially gone, replaced mostly by flashier and more expensive dreck. Certainly TV sci-fi has gone that route.
 
TOS was by far the most imaginative, smart and fun science fiction TV show I'd ever seen, in 1966.

The only series that really exceeded it, in some respects, was the original Twilight Zone, which I think was higher in some ways on the "imaginative" and "smart" ends of the spectrum but not nearly as much fun or as adventurous - from the POV of one thirteen-year-old kid, anyway.

The closest thing to it in the latter respects, for me, would have been the first year or so of "Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea" - but "closest" is not at all the same thing as "close" in this instance.

That about sums it up for me. Star Trek changed the game for televised SF, taking the best of TZ's morality play anthology qualities, the best of serialesque space adventure and damn near the best of dramatic tv storytelling in any genre and coming up with a show that was dead serious and tremendously entertaining, a show that wasn't afraid to give us grown-ups in space (something I really appreciated growing up in 1980s, when Spielberg and his minions dictated that the hero of every sci-fi flick need be pre-pubescent) acting like grown-ups. (On TOS, the "kid" was 22.)

A lot has been said around here lately about the show's limitations, especially in contrast to its various spin-offs and re-makes. All I can say is this: If any of them see farther than TOS (and I'm not about to concede that any of them do--not even DS9, which I really like), it is because they are as mice sitting upon the crown of a giant.

TOS was by far the most imaginative, smart and fun science fiction TV show I'd ever seen, in 1966.

I don't think it's been surpassed by many series since then. B5 had promise but didn't deliver, I felt.

It's kinda like Shakespeare, really--if anyone today were to write a play in blank verse using his inversions, elisions and his verbosity in the language (the puns, Jesus Christ, the puns!) and his plotting in the story, they'd be laughed off the stage. And yet the plays themselves remain the at pinnacle of literature. The fashions of storytelling change and the modes become--apparently, at least--more sophisticated but the real brilliance lives on.
 
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I was watching the movie "Forbidden Planet" last night and it obviously influenced TOS, but what it really is missing is babes in short skirts...

How did you miss Anne Francis?

Oh Anne's great, but I find myself more into her wardrobe in FP than her gams (must be the lady in me). Robbie the Robot had a future in fashion design that was sorely wasted. Maybe my biggest complaint about Forbidden Planet is the babe to substance ratio- Trek balances the philosophy/intelligent conversation thing with heart-pounding excitement and eye candy sufficiently better (I don't think I've made it through FP once without falling asleep, even with Anne Francis).
 
For me, pretty as she was, Ms. Francis was just too thin to pack the erotic punch of the TOS babes. Even Sherry Jackson and Marianna Hill were more voluptuous.
 
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