Fans, why do you like ENT?

[Catalyst]

ENT was always underrated, IMO. Broken Bow was the best pilot Trek has done, and while s1 left something to be desired with many of its eps, I think it was really the first half of s2 that killed the show.

After that, the show really got good, IMO. Cease Fire, Future Tense, Cogenitor, Regeneration, First Flight, and Judgment were some of ENT's best episodes. To me, these eps really started the turn-around the show experienced that many attribute to s3 & s4.

The Xindi arc was very well done, with only a few weak eps during the season, and some really great ones as well. S4 continued this, and I think it only had two weak eps during the entire season (the one with the transporter inventor & TATV). The section 31/Klingon two-parter was particularly well done.

I have no doubt that ENT would have continued to do big things had it been allowed to continue. At its best, I actually consider it up there with DS9 and some of the better eps of TNG quality-wise. It's a damn shame we'll never get to see the Romulan War played out, because that could have been amazing with Manny Coto & co. producing it.

 

[Dane_Whitman]

After that, the show really got good, IMO. Cease Fire, Future Tense, Cogenitor, Regeneration, First Flight, and Judgment were some of ENT's best episodes. To me, these eps really started the turn-around the show experienced that many attribute to s3 & s4.

I agree!

Overall I'd say season 1 was a fine season of Trek, only the first half of season 2 is mediocre/bad.

 

[Mach5]

After that, the show really got good, IMO. Cease Fire, Future Tense, Cogenitor, Regeneration, First Flight, and Judgment were some of ENT's best episodes. To me, these eps really started the turn-around the show experienced that many attribute to s3 & s4.

I agree!

Overall I'd say season 1 was a fine season of Trek, only the first half of season 2 is mediocre/bad.

I counted 8 S2 eps that I liked. Others were mediocre at best. 8 out of 24 (one third) is not good...

But then again, ENT S2 is far from the worst season of trek ever, like some bashers claim.

 

[Warped9]

I was not a fan of the show. But I must say that I found the basic concept of being a prequel potentially intriguing. If they had done certain things differently and had been more willing to go out a limb with them then I might have been won over to some extent.

 

[Penguin]

I liked it for what is was and I disliked it for what it was. Go Figure.

It had great potential and it failed that great potential.

So, There are Episodes I love and others I hated and I have recorded the ones I love and refuse to rewatch the ones I hated. suits me just fine.

 

[Jonathan Archer]

I'm not a Star Trek fan by any stretch of the imagination but I just love Enterprise ! The cast, characters, the ship, the design of the costumes, sets, the interaction of the crew - I just love it

 

[Captain Fine]

The Andorians, Vulcans, Tellarites. Romulans lurking around every corner. On the verge of war with the Klingons.

I really wanted to see the Earth-Romulan war occur. Why didn't the Coalition of Planets help them? When did the CoP become the UFP?

I thought they were moving in the right direction to show all these things.

I agree with whoever said it could have been as good as DS9. I think ENT is the most underrated Star Trek show.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I would assume the the CoP are the allies mentioned in Balance of Terror.

 

[Sci]

I was always fascinated by ENT's portrayal of the basic astropolitical situation in the 22nd Century Alpha Quadrant and would have very much liked to see them continue to show how the Earth-Romulan War broke out, and from there how Earth, Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, and Alpha Centauri joined together to form the Federation.

 

[Broccoli]

Porthos.

 

[Praetor]

It is hard to argue with the cuteness of a beagle, even if you have issues with it being on the ship in the first place.

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

Porthos.

 

[Captain Fine]

It is hard to argue with the cuteness of a beagle, even if you have issues with it being on the ship in the first place.

This is true. I loved Porthos. Although he was more fully-fleshed out as a character than poor Mayweather!

 

[Anthony Sabre]

I liked Enterprise because it got me excited about Star Trek again. I remember coming to this BBS back in 2001 and counting down the days to the premier. I remember keeping one eye on my TV, and one eye on my computer monitor, the night that Broken Bow aired, and posting my first impressions of the show. I really enjoyed seasons one and two. I didn't lose interest until season three and quickly regained interest in season four. My favorite characters were the secondary cast of Mayweather, Sato and Phlox. The three of them piqued my interest most.

It's become a lot easier to see what B&B were trying to do with this show after watching Star Trek XI. I just don't think they were the right people for the job. You could see a big difference when they somewhat stepped aside in season four. The change just came too late.

 

[Praetor]

It's become a lot easier to see what B&B were trying to do with this show after watching Star Trek XI. I just don't think they were the right people for the job. You could see a big difference when they somewhat stepped aside in season four. The change just came too late.

QFT. I've noticed the similarities between what was attempted with ENT and XI, too.

I honestly feel that the Temporal Cold War element (*barf*) was introduced to allow TPTB to "rewrite" the future of ENT/history of TOS/TNG/DS9/VGR if ENT caught on well with the fanbase, much in the same way certain, erm, things, happened in XI. Remember at the beginning it was often insisted that ENT took place in an alternate timeline created by the events of "First Contact."

 

[startrekwatcher]

I honestly feel that the Temporal Cold War element (*barf*) was introduced to allow TPTB to "rewrite" the future of ENT/history of TOS/TNG/DS9/VGR if ENT caught on well with the fanbase

I don't quite get those fans who felt that the Temporal Cold War was a bad idea. It really wasn't.

The problem with it was if you included it in the show and did it the justice it deserved then it would eventually displace the prequel premise to the show. Afterall when you start introducing and exploring numerous factions and what each is up to and their goals and what is going on in other fronts it reduces the prequel. It also minimizes the crew because realistically it shouldn't be Archer or T'Pol fighting this war but temporal agents like Daniels. And you can see that a few times in season three like "Carpenter Street" or "Zero Hour". Even Brannon Braga admitted as much in an interview in 2001 where he thought it would have worked better as its own series or a mini-series. Ultimately, the studio demanded a futuristic element to the show that would allow them to bring in 24th century elements or transport to the future in case the primitive prequel angle fell flat with the audience. So Brannon remembered his TCW idea and they agreed to bring it into the show. In fact, I've always looked upon it and the Xindi arc as the forebearers to Lost or Heroes in terms of the confusing puzzle style of storytelling where you only get certain pieces of information and answers only produce more questions.

I think the real problem fans had with the TCW was that they wanted to see the "pure" version of actual events in the 22nd century--not the altered ones provoked by forces from the distant future.

 

[Anthony Sabre]

Remember at the beginning it was often insisted that ENT took place in an alternate timeline created by the events of "First Contact."

That's interesting. So they were looking for a means to rewrite Trek as early as 2000-2001. And now they've successfully done it. Too bad ENT didn't succeed in doing it. I'm one of the fans who loved the TCW arc, Future Tense being one of my all time fav Trek episodes now.

 

[mysticgeek]

As they come across new and interesting encounters ... I like how Archer is a bit slow and indecisive making decisions. Because everything is new to everyone ... he doesn't act like an experienced captain but it's great to watch the entire crews reactions to new situations.

Oh ... and T'pol is HOT!

 

[Praetor]

I don't want to derail the thread, but I wanted to briefly respond to this:

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I don't quite get those fans who felt that the Temporal Cold War was a bad idea. It really wasn't.
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I think the real problem fans had with the TCW was that they wanted to see the "pure" version of actual events in the 22nd century--not the altered ones provoked by forces from the distant future.

That's most of it for me - I had also grown extremely tired of time travel after Voyager. But to me, the more interesting stuff in the past was the past itself, not some time war.

Remember at the beginning it was often insisted that ENT took place in an alternate timeline created by the events of "First Contact."

That's interesting. So they were looking for a means to rewrite Trek as early as 2000-2001. And now they've successfully done it. Too bad ENT didn't succeed in doing it. I'm one of the fans who loved the TCW arc, Future Tense being one of my all time fav Trek episodes now.

I, in full honestly, might not have minded if they had succeeded with ENT. I think there were other key problems with ENT that made the rest of the show (for me at least) not as appealing as by all rights it should have been. The TCW was just another demerit for me. Had the show itself been more interesting in other ways that I won't go into, I and I expect much of the fandom, might have been more welcoming to what I believe TPTB had in mind.

 

[Captain Fine]

I had also grown extremely tired of time travel after Voyager. But to me, the more interesting stuff in the past was the past itself, not some time war.

I think after this movie, we're all even more time-travelled out. Please no more time travel plots in the next couple movies!