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Fans Are Trying To Get Disney to Change Splash Mountain to a Moana or Princess and the Frog Ride

Isn't Song of the South technically fantasy? Combining live action with cartoons? Then to have a ride based on it I guess sort of makes it fit. Plus I think people are just use to Disney being a genre brand so almost anything from them sort of counts.

Jason
 
Yeah, the thing that shocked me the most when I learned that Splash Mountain was based on Song of the South, wasn't that it was based on a racist movie, it was that it was based on a movie that old, and that nobody cares about any more. Hell, I have a feeling at this point most people have probably never even heard of it.
I would have thought they would have updated it to something more current and popular years ago.
I just looked it up on the Disney Wiki and they only started the ride in 1989! I had assumed it had been around for a lot longer than that. I'm surprised they didn't go for something more current right off the bat, when they first put it together. Was Song of the South popular back then?
I grew up in the eighties and dont remember seeing the movie. I was vaguely familiar with Zip it Dee doo da and I knew about the rabbit, bear and fox from a children's book. I had no idea that they were a part of a Disney film. I thought I had seen all the Disney films too because that was an era where Disney was mostly just recycling old movies and cartoons. I didnt even know Song of the South existed until years later reading about it.
 
I don't recall watching it either but I have always been hit and miss with Disney even as a kid. I was never to much into Bugs Bunny and all of those cartoons. For me it was GiJoe, Transformers, Speed Racer, Go-Bots, Scooby- Doo, Tom and Jerry(not sure if they are Disney) and Flintstones. Don't recall being to much into live action other the Parent Trap and had a crush on Hayley Mills and the Herbie Movies. Most of the other stuff was things like Dukes of Hazzard which might have been a favorite, CHIPS, Gilligans Island, Different Strokes, Punky Brewster(who I also had a crush on) Alf and Growing Pains and A-Team and Knight Rider. Ironically I wasn't into Star Trek or really even Star Wars and I kind of wish now I had gotten into them earlier so I could have experienced them from a child's perspective.

Jason
 
Tom and Jerry were originally owned by MGM, and now owned by Warner Bros. Some of their stuff was done by Hanna-Barbera, so they tend to be included with other H-B stuff like The Jetsons, The Flintstones, Yogi Bear, and Johnny Quest.
 
The obvious retheme is Zootopia, and not just because there's been rumors of that for years. It would keep the anthro animal theme, would maintain a similar visual style, and would be based on a movie that tells an antiracist story, as opposed to...whatever the hell Song of the South was doing. (I've never seen it, so only know the broad strokes.)
Financially it's probably the easiest option. It already has a fox and rabbit character throughout the ride that could be reskinned.
 
Song of the South is actually available outside of North America, particularly in Europe and the UK, and I remember seeing the movie on TV as a kid. From what I remember the movie was very, very dull, and I think that, more than anything else is why they don't bother with a re-contextualized re-release. Scripting and shooting an intro that puts the movie into a proper context and discusses the problematic parts would likely be too much effort for a sub-par movie.

On changing the theme to Splash Mountain... I don't think Moana would fit since it's a "river"/"waterfall" rather than ocean themed.
But I suppose Princess and the Frog would work if they theme it around the Bayou scenes. That would actually make more sense than Song of the South, since unlike that movie, Princess and Frog actually features the characters travelling by river.
 
True.. but it goes back to the ole saying..
First they came for... And I did not speak out.. because I wasn't a...
Etc. Etc...
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me... because I threw everyone under the bus before me...

"Sir, this is a Wendy's."

* * *

Let's be very clear here. Song of the South was a piece of white supremacist propaganda for an imaginary 19th Century American South where black people were willingly subservient to white people. It's trash today, it was trash when Michael Eisner threw it in the Disney Vault, it was trash when it was re-released, and it was trash when it was made. It was actively protested by folks who recognized it as the white supremacist propaganda it is by people fighting for equal rights for black folk in the 1940s.

Every cultural artifact from this movie should be removed from modern Disney corporate usage. Such removal would make America a freer and more equal country by inhibiting the propagation of the racist ideas the movie advocates.

And I think re-theming Splash Mountain around Zootopia would be a brilliant way of keeping the animal theme and linking it to an actively anti-racist movie.
 
I never seen the movie.. But do remember a commercial with the Cosby kids singing the song back in the late 80s I believe...

@Sci
So when do we burn all copies of Mien Kompf .. Maybe huckleberry fin??
May be all copies of a movie called Farenhight 451?
History is there, should be remembered, and left as an example of what Not to do. Not canceled, erased or destroyed...
It's getting to stupid out there.. And it hurts my head..
 
@Sci
So when do we burn all copies of Mien Kompf ..

Oh for goodness's sake.

No one called for political censorship or book-burning. But that does not mean Disney should use elements from that film in their contemporary projects. Hell, Disney already knows that this is a work that they shouldn't profit off of, because they refuse to issue a commercial release of it.

History is there, should be remembered, and left as an example of what Not to do. Not canceled, erased or destroyed...

I am so, so tired of people equating "a company should not profit off of or perpetuate the ideas of a piece of white supremacist propaganda" or "a city should not celebrate slavers by displaying statues of them" with the erasure of history. That's not the erasure of history. If some grad student wants to watch a copy of Song of the South in the university film library, fine, whatever. But Disney as a corporation should not promote or profit off of any element of the film, and societies should not celebrate historical monsters.
 
I agree with the film, it's a racist crapfest, and if Disney wants to rename stuff and not produce it anymore that's fine too.

My argument is.. Where is the stop line?
It's to a point that there saying Chess is racist because white moves first! Come on.
 
My argument is.. Where is the stop line?
It's to a point that there saying Chess is racist because white moves first! Come on.
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I agree with the film, it's a racist crapfest, and if Disney wants to rename stuff and not produce it anymore that's fine too.

My argument is.. Where is the stop line?
It's to a point that there saying Chess is racist because white moves first! Come on.

Absurd strawmen are rarely actually good arguments.

I'm fine getting with companies getting rid of works of overt white supremacy and leaving it at that.
 
It's really as simple as this, racism is bad, and people don't want to be reminded of it of things that glorify it every time they go to a theme park, walk down the street or turn on a movie that isn't meant to be about racisms.
 
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My argument is.. Where is the stop line?

"Somewhere." There's always a line, and it's always somewhere. There is no slippery slope. Nothing goes on forever. Puppies don't keep growing until they're a hundred feet tall and start demolishing buildings with their wagging tails. Firefighters don't spray hoses into your house and ruin all your things when nothing's wrong because they're allowed to if your house is on fire. And rethemeing an amusement park ride is not going to end with the banning of all media.

Though I am intensely curious about this Mein Kampf tie-in ride at a Disney park you alluded to earlier. That hardly seems appropriate for children.
 
I agree with the film, it's a racist crapfest, and if Disney wants to rename stuff and not produce it anymore that's fine too.

My argument is.. Where is the stop line?
It's to a point that there saying Chess is racist because white moves first! Come on.

Where is the stop line? When the government says you can’t publish something. But a private entity should not be forced to keep something that no longer represents their values.
 
According to IGN it's going to follow Tiana and Naveen preparing for their first Mardi Gras after the end of the movie.
 
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