Fall of the Hulks & Red Hulk Revealed

[Mr Light]

Today I finally caught up with the recent Hulk storyline, Fall of the Hulks and World War Hulks.

First off, huge revelation. The identity of Red Hulk! Finally! AND I WAS RIGHT!!! Ever since the first arc I guess it was either him or Glen Talbot and I was right by god! Sweet.

I'm not crazy about this storyline. It's just a little silly, but I've never thought highly of the Leader or MODOK. They're just... ridiculous. So I haven't been as excited as the initial mystery of Red Hulk. Also, McGuinness' art just doesn't look as snazzy as the earlier issues for some reason.

And this bit about all the Marvel Heroes turning into Hulk versions of themselves? It's just... really over the top. Not to mention the two part mini series of "Hulkpool" traveling around history. They really need to stop making so many Deadpool comics, much as I love the main series

The only surprise for me was who Red She Hulk was. Also I thought Talbot was alive, so that he wasn't was surprising.

Plus, this major event (army of Hulks destroy DC! All heroes become Hulks!) is not being reflected in any other comics, so it really feels like a made up story that's not part of continuity. If I don't get 50 tie in issues I feel like it doesn't count dammit

 

[C.E. Evans]

Yeah, the identity of Red Hulk wasn't really a surprise for me, but I do tend to think Marvel went more out of its way to throw off who Red She-Hulk was though (Victoria Hand was a leading candidate at one point, I think).

But overall, Fall of the Hulks lost me fairly quickly. It got to the point where it was "Okay, let me off this train" after awhile...

 

[Anwar]

So, Red Hulk turned out to be the obvious choice even though the writer (It was Loeb, right?) earlier had these characters appear together.

Is Loeb capable of doing any story that is NOT Hush when it comes to a new character?

 

[Admiral_Young]

Loeb is handling the dreaded "Red Hulk" storyline while Greg Pak is doing the "World War Hulks" storyline. I've tried to get myself jazzed for either one of them but find that I can't for the reasons you indicated above Mr. Light. So much potential for Bruce after the "Planet Hulk" storyline (which got me back into Hulk) and the ball was dropped with this silly Red Hulk/She-Hulk we're all Hulks business. Interestingly enough a Maestro like Hulk seems to be the big bad in the Avengers relaunch

 

[Mr Light]

I initially found the Red Hulk mystery to be fascinating... and I love Ed McGuinness. But after the first arc of him beating up all the Marvel heroes... it's just been downhill from there.

 

[Hermiod]

Loeb is handling the dreaded "Red Hulk" storyline while Greg Pak is doing the "World War Hulks" storyline. I've tried to get myself jazzed for either one of them but find that I can't for the reasons you indicated above Mr. Light. So much potential for Bruce after the "Planet Hulk" storyline (which got me back into Hulk) and the ball was dropped with this silly Red Hulk/She-Hulk we're all Hulks business. Interestingly enough a Maestro like Hulk seems to be the big bad in the Avengers relaunch

We already had a Maestro-like Hulk in Fantastic Four.

 

[Yassim]

So, Red Hulk turned out to be the obvious choice even though the writer (It was Loeb, right?) earlier had these characters appear together.

Wait, so you're saying that the Red Hulk is

Spoiler: rulk's name

Thunderbolt Ross

even though they appeared next to each other?

I read the first trade at the library. It was laughable, and this sounds worse. Ugh

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

So, Red Hulk turned out to be the obvious choice even though the writer (It was Loeb, right?) earlier had these characters appear together.

Wait, so you're saying that the Red Hulk is

Spoiler: rulk's name

Thunderbolt Ross

even though they appeared next to each other?

I read the first trade at the library. It was laughable, and this sounds worse. Ugh

In a world with LMD's, Skrulls and clones around EVERY corner, does a character appearing next to "himself" really stretch things that badly??

It IS the Marvel universe.

 

[DarKush]

I liked the first couple issues with the Red Hulk. I thought he was pretty badass and I liked the artwork, but I thought they said the Red Hulk would be revealed within the first 6 issues, but when they went back on that (or so I thought), I gave up on it. I caught the first two trades at the library and it is over the top and silly. I also thought the Hulked Out Heroes idea was lame, though I did like the idea of the Intelligensia (sp). If that had been done more seriously they could be a pretty interesting threat.

I like the reveal of both Red Hulks though. But I'm not expecting any really great writing or story lines occurring because of it.

 

[Trent Roman]

In a world with LMD's, Skrulls and clones around EVERY corner, does a character appearing next to "himself" really stretch things that badly??

Seems like complicating things for nothing. Since Rulk and Ross were alone at the time, why not conclude that we were seeing, from Rulk's perspective, Ross' personality upbraiding him(self) for his apparent failures, the way other characters with multiple personalities 'talk' to themselves.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

In a world with LMD's, Skrulls and clones around EVERY corner, does a character appearing next to "himself" really stretch things that badly??

Seems like complicating things for nothing. Since Rulk and Ross were alone at the time, why not conclude that we were seeing, from Rulk's perspective, Ross' personality upbraiding him(self) for his apparent failures, the way other characters with multiple personalities 'talk' to themselves.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

To be honest, the moment I saw the scene that's EXACTLY what I thought it was. I "knew" (as much as anybody, really) that red Hulk was Ross (using the term "milksop" as often as he did could have been a red herring, but I didn't think it would be) and that scene done that way, with his inner self yelling at him, made the most sense to me.

But I thought the LMD angle was done well enough, and doesn't complicate matters at all. LMD's are old hat. It's almost the simplist explanation.

 

[Mr Light]

At the time it happened, I assumed that Samson and Ross weren't really there standing over Rulk, just his imagination recriminating himself.

Speaking of Samson, him being a villain is a little weird for me. I haven't read a lot of Hulk comics but from the ones I read from Peter David's run Samson was his best friend and an all around nice guy.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

I'm pretty sure Red Hulk was really Norman Osborne.

Who's still not dead again.

 

[Mr Light]

Hmm... Hulk was the only Marvel comic of the last year Norman wasn't appearing in...

 

[Python Trek]

nuMarvel sucks.