Facts about... unnamed Ben Cumberbatch character

[CommanderRaytas]

The point was that I disagree with TPTB making her invent something rather than having her simply speak more clearly for the Yanks.

Then why make her a half Betazoid?

Why put pointed ears on Spock?

That analogy doesn't work at all! Creating halfbreeds is relevant to the story and to character development. Being half human defines Spock's character, as does his Vulcan appearance. The same goes for Troi and her empathic abilities instead of telepathic.

Her accent is completely irrelevant and the fact that she mumbles about in something that no-one else even tries to imitate has nothing, nothing to do with the fact that she is half Betazoid.

Give me an example of why on Earth her weird mumbling is supposed to better the character, and I might concede the point. As it is, I stick with my opinion: either have more Betazoids talk that way, or leave it. Say it was the universal translator, or better, don't comment on it (as was the case with Spock's dad in ST09). She can speak more clearly to accomodate the Americans, but don't make up some "accent" that is not native of anything and doesn't do anything for either story or character development. It would have worked if it had been an issue, but since everyone ignores it, nobody talks like that and it's generally a big fat no never mind....don't bother.

Stephen King says that you must kill your darlings, which means cutting out stuff that doesn't matter for anything. Face it: the accent was utterly useless.

And again: why is it a problem to have several people on the bridge being from England? Apart from the fact that there are several different accents in England alone (not taking into account the rest of the UK and Ireland), all they need to do is follow the American actors' example and speak clearly.


On a different note, I find it funny that Cumberbatch is bored of denying his character is Khan. I still believe he won't be, but I can understand where he's coming from.

 

[M'Sharak]

On a different note, I find it funny that Cumberbatch is bored of denying his character is Khan. I still believe he won't be, but I can understand where he's coming from.

I'm inclined to believe the same, and can quite easily understand his boredom with the repeated denial. You can only give the same answer to a question so many times before it begins to pall.

 

[Oso Blanco]

Yea, many folks I know hear an Australian or Kiwi Accent and call it British

I must admit that I still can't tell an Aussie accent apart from a British one. But then again, I'm German ... so what do I know?

To me, Deannas accent always sounded very British ... and it was always so easy to understand for someone whose native language wasn't english!

 

[Wynterhawk]

And he makes a mean banoffee pie.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Then why make her a half Betazoid?

Why put pointed ears on Spock?

That analogy doesn't work at all! Creating halfbreeds is relevant to the story and to character development.

I'm saying that if you want to show that a science fiction character is an alien, you do it with makeup, or gesture, or voice. Something visual to help the actor convey alienness to the audience. They rejected putting a third breast (or shaving the head) of the half-Betazoid Troi (based on "Phase II"'s Deltan, Ilia). They went with a faux accent and black irises. Many people assumed that Marina Sirtis had very dark eyes; the lenses ended up being so subtle. Allow Troi to have the actor's original, very British, accent instead and the character becomes a human with dark eyes.

Spock was a Vulcan-human hybrid who resembled a full Vulcan. How boring would the Spock character have been if his half Vulcan heritage was not represented at all in his physical appearance. Had his human features been more dominant, would Spock have become such an iconic character?

all they need to do is follow the American actors' example and speak clearly.

Speaking "clearly" rids oneself of a thick accent?

 

[M'Sharak]

And he makes a mean banoffee pie.