Extremely Detailed Berman Interview

[CoveTom]

^ Uhm... we -are- continuity whores. Myself included. It's a fair description.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Braga is arrogant and the moment he started calling us "continuity whores" he lost the argument.

This interview is not with Braga, and there is no argument for you to win.

No one who's ever worked for Trek has behaved as arrogantly and insultingly as continuity-obsessed fans do toward the people who work on the Franchise. That's just a fact.

 

[xortex]

We can be bitter. We're not lighting our cigars with twenty dollar bills.

 

[Broccoli]

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, bitch and write fanzine articles criticizing people who can.

This, I like.

 

[trevanian]

Those who make the really tough decisions often need to be.

Doesn't mean the guy deserves any less respect.

He deserves plenty of disrespect for inflicting his aesthetic on TREK to its detriment from day one. Just for music notions alone, Berman is almost the antichrist of trek.

Wow...pretty hostile comment. While Berman made some mistakes, he did oversee close to 18 years of Trek productions (including the wildly successful TNG years of the '90s.) So many people on here focus on his mistakes, instead of also considering his successes.

Sorry, but the world is not as black and white as you seem to view it.

Amusing, as in another recent thread I was criticized for seeing the gray areas in what the other poster described as a black and white issue.

However, to keep to your view of me, I don't see much good in ANY of the Berman era outside of DS9, which he kept his nose out of for the most part. And what I do like is in SPITE of his sensibilities, not because of it [like the score in TIN MAN, which almost got the composer exiled from the show right off the bat.] Not keeping Melinda Snodgrass around and happy was idiotic, and while Piller gets some of the blame for that too, Berman is where the buck stops.

 

[Anwar]

That's to be expected, TOS nutters do seem to despise anything non-TOS and they enjoy making the rest of us miserable.

 

[trevanian]

That's to be expected, TOS nutters do seem to despise anything non-TOS and they enjoy making the rest of us miserable.

Guess who is seeing in black & white now? And the fact that something you like that doesn't measure up to my standards is what makes you that much more able to dismiss my view out of hand ... well, the irony is like warming like heat from a crackling fire.

 

[Anwar]

I agree with the black and white worldview, I never said I didn't.

 

[trevanian]

I agree with the black and white worldview, I never said I didn't.

Apologies, I thought you were the other poster. Serves me right for not having the screen open enough to see the left side where the usernames come up.

 

[trevanian]

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, bitch and write fanzine articles criticizing people who can.

This, I like.

This is making me think those emperor-minded types who live in transparent aluminum houses shouldn't walk around naked.

 

[Bad Atom]

I was going to watch the video but three hours of a very uncomfortable-looking Berman would be too much for me. Is there a transcript available somewhere?

 

[Broccoli]

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, bitch and write fanzine articles criticizing people who can.

This, I like.

This is making me think those emperor-minded types who live in transparent aluminum houses shouldn't walk around naked.

This, confuses me.

 

[Mach5]

Nothing Rick Berman says can mend his image in my eyes again. He went out like a punk. Remember that Woody Harrelson's line about a man who builds a thousand bridges in "Play it to the bone?" Rick Berman is that man (keep in mind, I speak metaphorically here).

 

[CoveTom]

^ I know I'll regret this, but how exactly did Rick Berman go out like a punk?

 

[M'Sharak]

I was going to watch the video but three hours of a very uncomfortable-looking Berman would be too much for me. Is there a transcript available somewhere?

TrekMovie.com has put up a summary of highlights and a few (hastily-transcribed) quotes here. That might do for a start.

 

[Saul]

Can't be bothered anymore to hear what he has to say. He's gone now.

 

[Broccoli]

Can't be bothered anymore to hear what he has to say. He's gone now.

I assume you feel the same way about Harve Bennett, Nick Meyer, William Shatner, Ron Moore, George Takei, Brannon Braga, LeVar Burton, and Wil Wheaton among others? I mean, they are all gone too, no?

 

[jefferiestubes8]

detailed highlights and notes on running times

this post details the highlights and at what running time:
http://trekmovie.com/2009/08/26/rick-berman-talks-18-years-of-trek-in-extensive-oral-history/

 

[Mach5]

^ I know I'll regret this, but how exactly did Rick Berman go out like a punk?

A person of your post count and tenure really shouldn't be asking such questions (IMHO).

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

We can be bitter. We're not lighting our cigars with twenty dollar bills.

Is that enough to justify bitterness now? It would explain a lot.

I suppose I should know this, but does American paper money burn easily enough to light something with it or does it just smolder and go out? One sees it in the movies but I confess I've never tried it or seen someone do it with real money.

Those who can, do.

Those who can't, bitch and write fanzine articles criticizing people who can.

This, I like.

Hey, if one can get paid a few pennies for it one can call it journalism or professional criticism or something.