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[Ar-Pharazon]

How about a Bones vs The thread in TNZ where they can rip on each other all day, every day. It could even be a sticky.

Then, hopefully, they won't derail every thread they co-post in with this feud of theirs.

 

[The]

How about a Bones vs The thread in TNZ where they can rip on each other all day, every day. It could even be a sticky.

Then, hopefully, they won't derail every thread they co-post in with this feud of theirs.

Unclench, deary. I no more derailed anything with a single post than I did when I took the time to explain to the faint-of-heart around here that it was a joke...

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Maybe, maybe not. But it takes a page or two to get around to that point sometimes

 

[Neroon]

How about a Bones vs The thread in TNZ where they can rip on each other all day, every day. It could even be a sticky.

Then, hopefully, they won't derail every thread they co-post in with this feud of theirs.

As amusing - and tempting - as that might be, let's get back to the original topic here and leave the other junk for other venues, not on this board.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

It's not offensive to refer to the Ninth Doctor as northern, because he's very much intended to be northern and played as such. Show him to anyone from England and the first thing most of them will say is "northern". It's why that rubbish joke about planets having a north is in Rose; he's strongly northern. And being so clearly regional is at odds with the Doctor as portrayed before; Sylvester McCoy is Scottish, but he didn't play the Doctor with a kilt and bagpipes, which is pretty much the equivalent of what Eccleston did with his leather jacket. Most people from the north of England aren't that strongly nothern either; he's very much a stereotype. Of course, his being northern isn't itself the reason I dislike the Ninth Doctor, but as I said, having a strongly regional identity is (in my view at least) at odds with the character of the Doctor.

As an American who is unfamiliar with a lot of British stereotypes, I'm curious. What about the 9th Doctor is so Northern? What aspects of his personality are Northern stereotypes? I picked up on his accent, which is admittedly more regional than the received pronunciation that other Doctors have used. But other than that, I don't understand.

 

[Starkers]

Basically only his accent is Northern,I don't think there are any other aspects of his personality that are 'Northern' unless of course only people from the North are allowed to wear leather jackets. Now if he'd said the following it might have been a different story....

"By eck Rose we'd best get back t'Tardis, 'aven't fed me 'omin pigeons in ages and I could murder a nice cuppa tea."

But he didn't. So I fail to see anything steriotypically Northern about him aside from his accent and the fact his clothing were suggestive of a working class ethos (and let's not forget there are working class people in the south as well.)

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

I fail to see anything steriotypically Northern about him aside from his accent and the fact his clothing were suggestive of a working class ethos

And yet, I'm not sure I'd be able to afford that jacket.

BTW, does anyone know where I could get a jacket like the 9th Doctor wears? (I was thinking of dressing as him for the next Phoenix ComicCon. I've got a friend who has already assembled most of the 11th Doctor's costume and is even working on a decent 10th Doctor getup. My friend wears a lot of velvet suits that are nearly Jon Pertwee-esque anyway; all we need to do is get a wig on him. I have one friend who has already done a good Amy & another who is working on the 1st Romana. Plus, there's always at least one 4th Doctor at the con.)

 

[HappyDayRiot]

BTW, does anyone know where I could get a jacket like the 9th Doctor wears?

Have you tried The North?

 

[Starkers]

BTW, does anyone know where I could get a jacket like the 9th Doctor wears?

Have you tried The North?

Seriously though I think the best bet would be some kind of German navel surplus shop

Really seriously I don't know, it is a very retro look but I'm sure someone on the net will make them, in fact I'm sure I remember someone posting a link ages ago to a company who do them. Let's face it, at least one person makes Six coats so there should be several who make Nine ones!

 

[Starkers]

Ah the wonders of Google!

http://www.thebadwolf.com/

 

[The]

Oh, to have an extra $1000 laying around....

 

[Bones2]

Basically only his accent is Northern,I don't think there are any other aspects of his personality that are 'Northern' unless of course only people from the North are allowed to wear leather jackets. Now if he'd said the following it might have been a different story....

"By eck Rose we'd best get back t'Tardis, 'aven't fed me 'omin pigeons in ages and I could murder a nice cuppa tea."

But he didn't. So I fail to see anything steriotypically Northern about him aside from his accent and the fact his clothing were suggestive of a working class ethos (and let's not forget there are working class people in the south as well.)

I wouldn't have been surprised if he had said that. What was that bit in The Unquiet Dead about "Ah've changed me joompah" and calling Dickens "Charlie Boy"? You wouldn't get that from a soft southern nancy. Put it this way: can you imagine the Ninth Doctor drinking a pint of lager? No, of course not, he's a bitter-drinker through and through. It'd look so out of place for him to drink a pint that isn't dark and earthy that you'd think it a production error.

Seriously though I think the best bet would be some kind of German navel surplus shop

Ah yes, the great German bellybutton surplus. They're worried that if it goes unchecked it could bring about '30s-style hyperinflation. And we all know what happened after that.

 

[Starkers]

To be honest I could imagine Ten called Dickens Charlie Boy as well, it works for a mockney accent as well as a Northern one.

Again you're infering a lot from his accent rather than anything he actually did that was particularly Northern.

 

[Bones2]

Heavy northern accent and mannerisms, and a leather jacket? He certainly wouldn't look out of place playing the bit part of a loan shark in Coronation Street for a fortnight. I can't imagine any other Doctor grinning madly and breaking Norris' fingers, but he'd fit the bill.

 

[Starkers]

Northern mannerisms? What prey tell were those? And as has been said people across the globe wear leather jackets?

 

[Bones2]

So are you saying you don't think the Ninth Doctor was strongly nothern? Even though he was clearly referenced as nothern in the show itself and anyone would tell you he's really northern?

It's political correctness gone mad, mon

 

[Starkers]

He had a Northern accent and dressed in a certain manner that might have implied working class but might just as easily implied German U-Boat Captain.

You keep suggesting he had specific characteristics that went beyond his accent but have yet to provide any solid evidence of these.

Still its a free country so believe what you choose to.

 

[Bones2]

Thanks, I will. One other thing though: guess what all the jokes about the Ninth Doctor on Uncyclopedia are about?

 

[Starkers]

Don't even know what Uncyclopedia is

 

[Stevil2001]

It's like a Wikipedia for jokes. It's exactly as funny as you'd imagine jokes that anyone is allowed to edit would be.