What's with Nero inviting any Captain he comes across over to his ship, anyway? Creepy fetish?
Same reason why Shinzon goes round asking women if he can stroke their hair. He's lonely Jean-luc...
Explain To Me "Captain" Nero
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Same reason why Shinzon goes round asking women if he can stroke their hair. He's lonely Jean-luc...
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What's with Nero inviting any Captain he comes across over to his ship, anyway? Creepy fetish?
Slumber Party.
Yes
Why is it the people who claim to care the most about canon seem to pay attention the least to what is going on?
Even a fishing boat has a (non-military) captain. Watch The Deadliest Catch on Discovery Channel. Perhaps people's childhoods were raped long before JJ Abrams made this movie... Geeesh!!!
Here, here!
(although I'm guessing that the OP is now just reduced to trying to find any insignificant piece of info to justify his argument that Star Trek IX is a horrible failure when in fact the box office numbers greatly dispute that idea.)
He's not in the military, so he doesn't have any rank.
"Captain" (position not rank), is the customary title for the "commander" (position, not rank) of a ship.
There was nothing weird, or fishy about Robau asking who the commander of the ship was. He could have said, "Who is your Commander?", "Who is your Captain?", "Who is your Leader?", or even "Who is your Shipmaster?" and he would have been equally correct.
Trivia: On US Navy Submarines, the "Commanding Officer" usually holds the rank of "Commander", and are referred to as "Captain".
"Captain" (position not rank), is the customary title for the "commander" (position, not rank) of a ship.
There was nothing weird, or fishy about Robau asking who the commander of the ship was. He could have said, "Who is your Commander?", "Who is your Captain?", "Who is your Leader?", or even "Who is your Shipmaster?" and he would have been equally correct.
Trivia: On US Navy Submarines, the "Commanding Officer" usually holds the rank of "Commander", and are referred to as "Captain".
O-5 Commander is far and away the most common rank for an at-sea command.
And make Smores.What's with Nero inviting any Captain he comes across over to his ship, anyway? Creepy fetish?
He invites them over to put on temporary tattoos and to pierce each other's ears.
You're not telling me anything new, Broseph.
Yes, "captain" is a job title, in addition to being a specific Starfleet rank between Commander and Commodore.
When Spock and Kirk took command of the Enterprise, the other characters referred to them as "Captain," even though their actual rank was Commander and Cadet.
On Romulan military ships, the captain usually has the Romulan rank of Commander, Subcommander, or Admiral, but they are still the captain of the ship.
Nero had no military rank, but his job was still to captain the mining ship.
When Spock and Kirk took command of the Enterprise, the other characters referred to them as "Captain," even though their actual rank was Commander and Cadet.
On Romulan military ships, the captain usually has the Romulan rank of Commander, Subcommander, or Admiral, but they are still the captain of the ship.
Nero had no military rank, but his job was still to captain the mining ship.
Simply put, sometimes "Captain" is a rank, sometimes it is a title. Similarly, sometimes "Commander" is a rank, sometimes it is a title. In either case, I'm reasonably sure that the original Romulan word is neither Captain nor Commander. Presumably, what we hear is a context-based translation.
(There were Vulcan captains on "Enterprise," too.)
(There were Vulcan captains on "Enterprise," too.)
Not a military rank, but a job title.
I see plenty of people beat me to this. Guess just about everybody gets it, save for a small few, who'd rather try to pass this off as a plot hole, or canon violation, than admit they simply don't understand. As blaXXer said: Gotta love the Haters.
I see plenty of people beat me to this. Guess just about everybody gets it, save for a small few, who'd rather try to pass this off as a plot hole, or canon violation, than admit they simply don't understand. As blaXXer said: Gotta love the Haters.
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The word Captain has two common meanings:
- a rank in a military hierarchy
- a position of leadership of a vessel (i.e. the highest ranked or leader of a crew)
Both are equally valid. Both may coincide, as they have for Kirk, Picard, etc...
But leaders of civilian vessels are always referred to as Captains. Depending on which naval tradition, a military leader of a ship can be called Captain even though their rank technically is less than Captain. (This is common in Star Trek)
- a rank in a military hierarchy
- a position of leadership of a vessel (i.e. the highest ranked or leader of a crew)
Both are equally valid. Both may coincide, as they have for Kirk, Picard, etc...
But leaders of civilian vessels are always referred to as Captains. Depending on which naval tradition, a military leader of a ship can be called Captain even though their rank technically is less than Captain. (This is common in Star Trek)
Yep. Generally, anyone in charge of a ship is called "Captain," but not everyone in charge of a ship holds the military rank of Captain. There is Trek precedent for this - Lt Cdr Dax on DS9 was called "Captain" when she commanded the Defiant.
(In the RW, I belive the rank of "Lieutenant Commander" originated with the term "Lieutenant Commanding" for a ship's captain who was of Lieutenant rank.)
So, I could make the crew of my dinghy call me "Captain" if I wanted to.
(In the RW, I belive the rank of "Lieutenant Commander" originated with the term "Lieutenant Commanding" for a ship's captain who was of Lieutenant rank.)
So, I could make the crew of my dinghy call me "Captain" if I wanted to.
You are correct.
I sure hope I'm not too late to mention that he was a civilian mining ship captain?
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