Examining the problems with original character Trek movies

[Kelso]

Whatdya think?

I disagree with nearly all of your points.

 

[lucas1701]

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#11- Concrete aparrent in the engine room, some silly, forced humour, iron pipes in the engine room, questionable Spock character choices (teh kissing, sending Kirk to Delta Vega), hanging lights in the engine room, the engine room.

Whatdya think?

You forgot to mention the engine room. OMG the engine room...Scotty in the water pipes. 19th century taps. 20th Century plumbing. Beer. The non-cylindrical interior of a cylinder. Plumbing... dear GOD.

Since when has the "warp drive" section of the Enterprise been presented as a single room stretching from bulkhead to bulkhead? .

Because the enterprise simply isn't that big. The engine room on screen would have filled the section of cylinder it occupied.

 

[Chrisisall]

The first three ST movies are very good. Nothing in them annoys me as much as it apparently does you.

I pic-nit because I love.

Even V has a place in my heart, though not in my DVD collection.

 

[TigerOfDarkness]

Whatdya think?

You left out #7 - an amusing TOS mini-movie with an overlong TNG episode tacked on the end.

The only nit-pick I'd make of #7 is that it is a shame that Chekov and Scotty are saying the lines clearly intended for McCoy and Spock (not that they don't do them well or anything).

 

[Nerys Myk]

You forgot to mention the engine room. OMG the engine room...Scotty in the water pipes. 19th century taps. 20th Century plumbing. Beer. The non-cylindrical interior of a cylinder. Plumbing... dear GOD.

Since when has the "warp drive" section of the Enterprise been presented as a single room stretching from bulkhead to bulkhead? .

Because the enterprise simply isn't that big. The engine room on screen would have filled the section of cylinder it occupied.

Are you sure?

 

[Chrisisall]

Since when has the "warp drive" section of the Enterprise been presented as a single room stretching from bulkhead to bulkhead? .

Because the enterprise simply isn't that big. The engine room on screen would have filled the section of cylinder it occupied.

Are you sure?

I agree with Lucas. I just watched ST09, and I simply can't believe the Kelvin's or Enterprise's bodies could contain that much wasted space ( 200 + foot ceilings??? What for? Frizbee championships? Paintball fights among the pipes?).

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because the enterprise simply isn't that big. The engine room on screen would have filled the section of cylinder it occupied.

Are you sure?

I agree with Lucas. I just watched ST09, and I simply can't believe the Kelvin's or Enterprise's bodies could contain that much wasted space ( 200 + foot ceilings??? What for? Frizbee championships? Paintball fights among the pipes?).

Wasted space, the original universe had an engineering room that could double as a dance floor.

 

[Chrisisall]

Wasted space, the original universe had an engineering room that could double as a dance floor.

But it had, like, a 25' ceiling, and wasn't more than 40' long. Call it "room-for-refit." The NuE was like a freakin' Dr. Who telephone booth!!! Bigger on the inside than on the outside!!!

 

[Gepard]

The NuE was like a freakin' Dr. Who telephone booth!!! Bigger on the inside than on the outside!!!

Unless the ship is 700 meters long, of course. Funny how that solves a lot of the scaling problems.

 

[Chrisisall]

Unless the ship is 700 meters long, of course. Funny how that solves a lot of the scaling problems.

At 2000+ feet long, that STILL doesn't jibe. Just before the shuttlecraft left the Kelvin, I swear I saw Tinkerbell throw fairy dust to make the transition from inside to outide the ship look right!
Or, were those lens flares...??

 

[Nerys Myk]

Who wants a tall glass of beer?

 

[Chrisisall]

Who wants a tall glass of beer?

The United Federation Of Brewery Engineers, clearly.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Incorrect, the answer is "everyone".

 

[RobertScorpio]

#3- Death of David was gratutious & cheap.

I thought the sequence with David's death and Kirk's subsequent reaction was one of the best moments in all of Trek. It's a scene that is devoid entirely of a telegraphing musical score or 'gratuitous' combat - it's very gritty and real, and happens very quickly. Try to remember seeing it for the first time... Saavik's about to die by the hands of a bloodthirsty Klingon. David spins and goes into hero-mode... Kirk's son will save the day! Hearts are uplifted! Cue the triumphant Kirk-fight-score...

...the 'thwuk' noise you just heard is the sound of a Klingon blade gutting David Marcus after an ineffectual struggle. Kirk is informed of the news and is literally floored, as was this moviegoer...

Agreed...this thead is just revisionist, arm-chair quarterbacking, that really serves no purpose. I would be ashamed to post something like this. But, hey, you can't win them all.

Rob

 

[Bones2]

#3- Death of David was gratutious & cheap.

I thought the sequence with David's death and Kirk's subsequent reaction was one of the best moments in all of Trek. It's a scene that is devoid entirely of a telegraphing musical score or 'gratuitous' combat - it's very gritty and real, and happens very quickly. Try to remember seeing it for the first time... Saavik's about to die by the hands of a bloodthirsty Klingon. David spins and goes into hero-mode... Kirk's son will save the day! Hearts are uplifted! Cue the triumphant Kirk-fight-score...

...the 'thwuk' noise you just heard is the sound of a Klingon blade gutting David Marcus after an ineffectual struggle. Kirk is informed of the news and is literally floored, as was this moviegoer...

Agreed...this thead is just revisionist, arm-chair quarterbacking, that really serves no purpose. I would be ashamed to post something like this. But, hey, you can't win them all.

Rob

 

[Chrisisall]

this thead is just revisionist, arm-chair quarterbacking, that really serves no purpose. I would be ashamed to post something like this.

Yeah, I'd even be ashamed to appear on a thread this revolting!

 

[Bones2]

For goodness sake, PLEASE stop with the emoticons. They make you seem about 10.

 

[Anticitizen]

For goodness sake, PLEASE stop with the emoticons. They make you seem about 10.

Not everyone has completed Kolinahr...


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[Chrisisall]

For goodness sake, PLEASE stop with the emoticons. They make you seem about 10.

You say that like it's a bad thing...

Not everyone has completed Kolinahr...

Halfway through I gave up.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Oh, come, now guys. We can use emoticons and if you don't want to, that's okay.