Evil Airplane designers :)

[Captrek]

The concept doesn't go far enough. The space above your hands goes to waste. That's a perfect spot for a pair of legs hanging down from a second level of seating. Or for a more social experience, heads hanging down from an upside-down level of seating.

 

[Marc]

The concept doesn't go far enough. The space above your hands goes to waste. That's a perfect spot for a pair of legs hanging down from a second level of seating. Or for a more social experience, heads hanging down from an upside-down level of seating.

Sssh, you'll give Ryan Air ideas.

 

[Captrek]

The concept doesn't go far enough. The space above your hands goes to waste. That's a perfect spot for a pair of legs hanging down from a second level of seating. Or for a more social experience, heads hanging down from an upside-down level of seating.

Sssh, you'll give Ryan Air ideas.

I got my degree from the University of Gideon. Ryan Air should hire me.

 

[Leviathan]

Dear NSA, Homeland Security, FBI, and TSA people:

Should this seating plan ever come to fruition, please expect terrorism against airliners to be the only sensible course of action.

Sincerely,

Pretty much all of us.

 

[scotpens]

Maybe more effort should be spent on trying to replace fossil fuels as the fuel source? Then the aircraft can be made wider, there wouldn't be such a need to reduce weight as much as possible, and there'd be more space as a result for seats!

Excuse me, but that's a non sequitur. I don't see what the first sentence has to do with the second.

 

[Captrek]

Could it be that there are applications, perhaps in military transport or humanitarian evacuations, where cramming as many people as possible onto each flight is important enough to justify this?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Could it be that there are applications, perhaps in military transport or humanitarian evacuations, where cramming as many people as possible onto each flight is important enough to justify this?

Ah!!!!!!!!!!!

Now yes that would be a good idea.

 

[Captrek]

Could it be that there are applications, perhaps in military transport or humanitarian evacuations, where cramming as many people as possible onto each flight is important enough to justify this?

Ah!!!!!!!!!!!

Now yes that would be a good idea.

It also appears from the mockup that when the middle seat is folded up and not in use, the arrangement is quite roomy and armrests can easily be installed for nice comfortable seating. But on those occasions when you really need to cram in the extra passengers, you remove the armrests and fill the middle seats.

 

[MANT!]

I think the only way the airlines would be happy would be if they could freeze the passengers, stack 'em like cord-wood and treat 'em like cargo throughout the flight..like in the 5th Element..

 

[Trekker4747]

I think the only way the airlines would be happy would be if they could freeze the passengers, stack 'em like cord-wood and treat 'em like cargo throughout the flight..like in the 5th Element..

I dunno, the pods in The Fifth Element looked roomy and comfy. I'd take a nap in there for a long flight.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

The stupid thing about the sleeping pods in The Fifth Element was, they didn't save any space, because they were much larger than the space a person sitting down would take up, and they were completely unnecessary since it was demonstrated in the film that FTL travel between Phloston and Earth was like an hour and a half or something. Corbin gives out a precise number. Even if the spaceliner is significantly slower than the spacefighter, they gave a timeline of events where Corbin would have to be on Phloston by such and such a day that makes it obvious that FTL travel between star systems is about as brief as short interstate flights today.

It might have just been a passenger pacification system as much as anything else, since it was a pretty corrupt and crime ridden world.

But then, I realize I'm questioning the logic of the cryopods on the spaceplane in the movie where a beam of love and Bruce Willis' contractually obligated "rarrrrgh!" that he gives in every movie stops a giant ball of evil and leaves it hovering motionless in the sky seconds from impact, and I tell myself, "go to bed Locutus."

 

[JES]

Maybe more effort should be spent on trying to replace fossil fuels as the fuel source? Then the aircraft can be made wider, there wouldn't be such a need to reduce weight as much as possible, and there'd be more space as a result for seats!

Excuse me, but that's a non sequitur. I don't see what the first sentence has to do with the second.

Isn't the reason that they are trying to reduce weight anyway they can is because of rising fuel costs?
Come to think of it, isn't that why they trying to design new aircraft to have more internal space also partly the reason for this?
Or is that simply caused by the shape of the parking terminal, and more of an unwillingness to change them for next-generation aircraft?

I'm thinking as a designer, I'd approach the seat planning so that it is easy to get in and out of the seats. And if it starts to get cramped, I'd go back to the drawing board, and make the fuselage wider, so the seats can be better spaced apart, at least to the point where there is enough space that all seats can have their own individual armrests.
Then again, I'd also base the seats off of bucket seats like those used in a sports car or child seat, so they have ample support and comfort, and give them shoulder belts as well, so maybe I'm just an odd duck or too much of an idealist?

 

[Marc]

Isn't the reason that they are trying to reduce weight anyway they can is because of rising fuel costs?
Come to think of it, isn't that why they trying to design new aircraft to have more internal space also partly the reason for this?

Fuel effieciency is factor but it's more about fitting as many people as possible on the plane.

When an aircaft is designed and built it's give a variety of weights limits such a MTOW or Maximum Take Off Weight.

So apart from needing the space (which is where the high density seating comes in) extra passengers and their luggage etc means extra weight (which can then entail needing a more fuel).

So in order not break the weight limits they need to find some savings and the new seats are one way of doing it.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

All this talk about reducing weight reminds me of those hilarious designs I used to see in Popular Mechanics. I swear I'm not making this up, they once had a design of a plane with THREE FUSELAGES!

But then, I realize I'm questioning the logic of the cryopods on the spaceplane in the movie where a beam of love and Bruce Willis' contractually obligated "rarrrrgh!" that he gives in every movie stops a giant ball of evil and leaves it hovering motionless in the sky seconds from impact, and I tell myself, "go to bed Locutus."

Sir, are you classified as human?

 

[Leviathan]

You want your little problem solved? FINE.

1. I want the seats all to myself, my own row!
2. Has to be cheap for the airlines.
3. I want no fossil fuels and no nuclear power and it has to be all clean.

I shall do away with the airlines and replace them with Catapults. Enjoy your launchings.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

But then, I realize I'm questioning the logic of the cryopods on the spaceplane in the movie where a beam of love and Bruce Willis' contractually obligated "rarrrrgh!" that he gives in every movie stops a giant ball of evil and leaves it hovering motionless in the sky seconds from impact, and I tell myself, "go to bed Locutus."

Sir, are you classified as human?

Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

 

[scotpens]

All this talk about reducing weight reminds me of those hilarious designs I used to see in Popular Mechanics. I swear I'm not making this up, they once had a design of a plane with THREE FUSELAGES!

This one has two and looks pretty cool.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Supergreen!

 

[MANT!]

I think the only way the airlines would be happy would be if they could freeze the passengers, stack 'em like cord-wood and treat 'em like cargo throughout the flight..like in the 5th Element..

I dunno, the pods in The Fifth Element looked roomy and comfy. I'd take a nap in there for a long flight.

Those were "First Class" pods..I'd hate to see the Economy (AKA Steerage) class pods..

 

[Timby]

You know what sounds awesome? Taking off backwards. I'm sure that won't make everyone vomit profusely.

I have a near-paralyzing fear of heights and travel semi-frequently for work (though not nearly as much as I did when I worked at my last firm in Baltimore) -- this arrangement would probably put me into a full-blown meltdown as soon as the plane started accelerating on the runway.