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Evidence of SNW being a possible alternate timeline from TOS

Also, have the current creative minds think on the sound of one hand clapping since not altering Trek but make new content is an impossible task.
 
I don’t think you understand how this stuff works.
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Let the current creative minds pick another era which is not well covered. Also do not change the past or alter the future.
This literally leaves no room for anyone to do anything if everything is sacrosanct.
 
Just reboot the damned thing. Allow Trek to actually become something that 21st century viewers can connect with. Something based on their world and experiences, not something that is based on their grandparents view.

Comes a time where you can’t go home again. I think Trek has reached that point.

I love Star Trek and have found some level of enjoyment in most every series. But I agree. Time to drop the dead weight and start all the way over.
 
I love Star Trek and have found some level of enjoyment in most every series. But I agree. Time to drop the dead weight and start all the way over.
We could maybe have a one-off special for one of the old continuity series or something along the way where the opportunity arises, but the franchise should absolutely reset back to one..
 
That Tawny Newsome thing was never actually a thing, I believe. It was a reward for the work she had done for the franchise.

I’m not sure anyone here ever saw that as a serious option.

It was popular with the people who stuck around for season 3. The people who bailed put before many never came back. Kurtzman has tried everything to bring young viewers in and all he's done is shrink the older fan base. Im not taking 80 plus year olds here. Im talking mid aged people that are very much engaged in watching programs. He ignored them abd pathetically thought SFA would bring in younger viewers. It didnt work with the cartoons and it didn't work with any other show he's tried. He effectively shrunk the fan base. SFAs numbers and ultimate cancelation proves that. Its over Bill. Kurtzman effectively killed star trek. Sart Trek as long time fans knew it.
 
Starfleet Academy as a concept had been thrown around since the Harve Bennett days. With all due respect to Harve Bennett and everything he did for Star Trek, I think studios were right not to run with a Starfleet Academy show/movie. School environments just don't really mesh well with sci-fi/fantasy other than Harry Potter which was mostly aimed at kids. Even the X-Men, which had a school concept since 1963, only barely remembered that the X-Men were supposed to be a school every now and then, in the films, cartoons, and comics.

I think Starfleet Academy would've failed regardless of who was behind it. In regards to Kurtzman specifically then, his only fault would be going through with it even though he knew full well that studios in the past had passed on Starfleet Academy, and for good reason as Trek fans have never really shown an interest in the Starfleet Academy concept.
 
Im talking mid aged people that are very much engaged in watching programs.

You know that the age that advertisers target is 18-35? These are individuals who are young, perhaps unmarried, typically without children and who have disposable income. That’s where they are buying ads and where they’re really focusing on. I’m 46. I realize that I’m fairly irrelevant to advertisers (and as I pay for no ads, I’m aware ads are irrelevant to me). So while middle aged people may be watching shows, they’re not really key demographics. Even more so, if you’re talking 36-59, you’re also typically talking mid-career, senior individual contributors or managers, maybe even some execs. Most have children and probably don’t care about the minutiae of a fictional universe. They simply want to escape for an hour. Not to say those who are deep into it all don’t exist. We’re on a website where the audience does skew older and focuses deeply on the minutiae. But that is a niche. And Star Trek has always been a niche audience. So we’re really talking a niche of a niche here. So, no, they’re not going to target us. It sucks, but we’ve outgrown their usefulness.

Just trying to really help put this into perspective.
 
So, no, they’re not going to target us. It sucks, but we’ve outgrown their usefulness.

I'm not so sure it sucks. Yeah, I have a myriad of issues with the current Kurtzman cycle. Same time, I've probably learned some things that I might not have otherwise learned. About Star Trek, about the entertainment business and about how society is changing. Never the greatest, but certainly had its gems.

I have my Star Trek. I have no issues with it changing with the times, so others might get the same things out of it that I have.
 
It was popular with the people who stuck around for season 3. The people who bailed put before many never came back. Kurtzman has tried everything to bring young viewers in and all he's done is shrink the older fan base. Im not taking 80 plus year olds here. Im talking mid aged people that are very much engaged in watching programs. He ignored them abd pathetically thought SFA would bring in younger viewers. It didnt work with the cartoons and it didn't work with any other show he's tried. He effectively shrunk the fan base. SFAs numbers and ultimate cancelation proves that. Its over Bill. Kurtzman effectively killed star trek. Sart Trek as long time fans knew it.
Is it not possible that Kurtzman is acting on orders from above to target the younger demo? We already had Picard aimed squarely at the oldies, who haven't shut up about Legacy since...
 
Is it not possible that Kurtzman is acting on orders from above to target the younger demo? We already had Picard aimed squarely at the oldies, who haven't shut up about Legacy since...

So foolish. You think Paramount handed over a billion dollar IP and buckets of cash expecting to have a say in the way things are run. *tsk, tsk*

I may be in the minority of 51-year-old male Trekkies who isn't screaming that I want Legacy. :lol:

It was a bad idea that only the hardest of the hardest of the hardcore fans wanted.
 
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