Everything wrong with Star Trek First Contact
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also the whole self destructing the ship just to "get rid" of the Borg..
wouldnt that cause a bigger problem which it would leave Picard and gang stranded in the past and not having a way back to present time?
and even if the self destruct succeeded, pretty a few Borg would have transported beamed own to Earth and start assimilating people left and right anyway
wouldnt that cause a bigger problem which it would leave Picard and gang stranded in the past and not having a way back to present time?
and even if the self destruct succeeded, pretty a few Borg would have transported beamed own to Earth and start assimilating people left and right anyway
I love these reviews... The good stuff starts at 0:37 in. it immediately starts out with fresh new observations to go along with the all-time classic goofs that others, like RLM and others, have pointed out, and complete without RLM's oddly-entertaining Mr. Plinkett guy. That's good!
Heck, just relieve Picard and elevate Commander No'Name III into command like what they did for Jellico in a very special season 6 episode so they can get the super duper ship out there. (never mind the time travel faff, though Frakes acted his heart out to try to make it exciting in pre-release teasers and interview tidbits for the best pandering the 1990s could offer!
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I remember taking notes during my 2nd theater viewing, which might be in part why I left halfway through.
Thankfully, CinemaSins and RLM and others pointed all those, plus quite a few more. And that's part of the fun!
Granted, CinemaSins MADE A SIN in that they chose not to do a lame easter egg callback and use DS5 instead. Yes, the universe is bigger than just DS9 where it's nowhere near this event and DS5 would be far closer to it...
...Especially as the movie's own big attack scene can't make up its mind if they want to have characters be super excited to ram the ship or be concerned about it one scene later and while tons of larger ships are being blown up with ease, and not to mention how Defiant had the night shift of folks we'd never heard of before. Or since. But everyone already knew that one and Sisko had more interesting battles to work on, anyhow.
Granted, CinemaSins also overlooked the best easter egg (along with everyone else):
When everyone looks into orbit from the ground to see the 1701-E in orbit, that was the sort of angle Blake's 7 used a few times in series 1. (B7 was also the first, as I recall and I might be wrong*, to do a main ship crash landing, complete with actual trees, and for having no money it looked amazing, but B7 still had the stronger plotting... So I win.
(just kidding!))
* do let me know. Until 1981, they only had characters screaming they might crash or Kirk telling Scotty to jettison the nacelles in "The Apple" and yet no "we're gonna crash, dang it doodily" scenes never came to fruition...
Heck, just relieve Picard and elevate Commander No'Name III into command like what they did for Jellico in a very special season 6 episode so they can get the super duper ship out there. (never mind the time travel faff, though Frakes acted his heart out to try to make it exciting in pre-release teasers and interview tidbits for the best pandering the 1990s could offer!
)I remember taking notes during my 2nd theater viewing, which might be in part why I left halfway through.
Thankfully, CinemaSins and RLM and others pointed all those, plus quite a few more. And that's part of the fun!
Granted, CinemaSins MADE A SIN in that they chose not to do a lame easter egg callback and use DS5 instead. Yes, the universe is bigger than just DS9 where it's nowhere near this event and DS5 would be far closer to it...
...Especially as the movie's own big attack scene can't make up its mind if they want to have characters be super excited to ram the ship or be concerned about it one scene later and while tons of larger ships are being blown up with ease, and not to mention how Defiant had the night shift of folks we'd never heard of before. Or since. But everyone already knew that one and Sisko had more interesting battles to work on, anyhow.
Granted, CinemaSins also overlooked the best easter egg (along with everyone else):
When everyone looks into orbit from the ground to see the 1701-E in orbit, that was the sort of angle Blake's 7 used a few times in series 1. (B7 was also the first, as I recall and I might be wrong*, to do a main ship crash landing, complete with actual trees, and for having no money it looked amazing, but B7 still had the stronger plotting... So I win.
(just kidding!))* do let me know. Until 1981, they only had characters screaming they might crash or Kirk telling Scotty to jettison the nacelles in "The Apple" and yet no "we're gonna crash, dang it doodily" scenes never came to fruition...
I'm not sure how the crew being stranded in the past is a 'bigger' problem than the whole ship, and eventually planet, being assimilated. It's a pretty clear case of picking the lesser of two evils.
Assuming the self destruct is actually powerful enough to vaporize the whole ship, of course. If a single Borg survives even partially intact, then I agree the whole thing was for nothing anyway.
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