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Eva Green cast as female lead in Dark Shadows

the revival failed because NBC kept shifting the show around due to coverage of the fist Gulf War. i like the original series and the revival. kinda hard to imagine Depp as Barnabas though.
 
But he's definitely nutty enough to actually film this in B&W and set it in the 60s, which would be great.


Given the box-failure of ED WOOD (despite it being probably Burton's very best film), I doubt any studios going to let him do a black-and-white movie again . . . .

Plus, it's not like the original series was mostly black-and-white. It aired in color for most of its run . . . .
 
I wonder how they're going to make this movie seem like Dark Shadows at all, instead of just another vampire flick (undoubtedly with a lot of Burtonesque baroque freakiness)? What separated the TV show from any other gothic vampire story was the soap opera format, and that simply can't be re-created in movie form.

So we'll probably end up with just another vampire flick, with a lot of Burtonesque baroque freakiness. Probably worth a rental, anyway. DSINO. :D

Johnny Depp just isn't right for every Burton Project (Willy Wonka for instance, and even if Johnny Depp gave the performance of a lifetime, I'm just not sure he could fit my Barnabas, he's too different from the character embedded in my brain). I have no doubt Johnny Depp could do a Vampire well, just not this one, IMHO.

I gotta agree with that. Maybe just do yet another take on Dracula, but this time with a lot of Burtonesque baroque freakiness. But that's not as unusual or cool as doing a nichey cult show like Dark Shadows. And reportedly, Depp is a big fan.

I could see someone like Zachary Quinto as much more the Barnabas type.
 
I could see someone like Zachary Quinto as much more the Barnabas type.
now that would be good. :techman:

and along with the soap opera format the tv series had very little blood or gore. though the revival had quite a bit of blood i'm afraid this movie is going to be an all out blood/gore fest.
 
i'm afraid this movie is going to be an all out blood/gore fest.
I doubt it. I'm sure they'll go for a PG-13 rating, not Sweeney Todd-style bloodletting.


In fact, I suspect it will a lot less gory than the first two Dark Shadows movies back in the 70's, which were much bloodier than the tv version.
i've never been able to track those down, but i heard they were very different from the series.
 
As with all remakes, I am dubious about this, but with Tim Burton and Johnny Depp involved I am cautiously optimistic. At first glance, Depp doesn't seem right for Barnabas, but his transformative powers as an actor are pretty amazing. I just hope that Burton is able to go with Gothic and avoid surreal. But he's definitely nutty enough to actually film this in B&W and set it in the 60s, which would be great.

I don't know. Can't you picture Barnabas as someone who wears heavy over-the-top makeup and talks with a funny made-up accent while the music BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM DE DE DE, DE DE DE, BOOM BOOM, BOOM BOOM plays? :p
That was his cousin, Bartholomew Collins, who toured with a burlesque troupe.

But he's definitely nutty enough to actually film this in B&W and set it in the 60s, which would be great.


Given the box-failure of ED WOOD (despite it being probably Burton's very best film), I doubt any studios going to let him do a black-and-white movie again . . . .

Plus, it's not like the original series was mostly black-and-white. It aired in color for most of its run . . . .
Good point. I keep forgetting that because I saw it all in black-and-white; we didn't have color TV then.
 
They were. The reason for the failure of the first (although it was a nominal box office success) among the DS fandom was that it radically altered the character of Barnabas. He was an evil baddie in the end, just like every other (to that point) vampire movie -- Dracula, Count Yorga, whatever.

The second failed because of studio interference -- they butchered the thing and left it totally incomprehensible. Still, it was a great gothic flick in the traditional sense.

As to not being able to find them... well, whole torrents of fans have found a bit of solace thanks to the web.

Ahem.
 
The two DS movies are not available on DVD, but they occasionally show up on Turner Classic Movies. Though I doubt they will any time soon, since its 31 Days of Oscar. ;0)

Yes, if the 2004 pilot was never picked up- was that because there was a imitation Buffy overload at the time, and I agree, how will Burton make this not a Twilight newglow vampire picture?

For me the most obvious example of how far gone Burton is, is in fact Helena Bonham Carter. All those Ivory Merchant heavy serious period piece films with all the hardware and style- while not everyone's cup of tea, they were well made, finely acted shows. She gets with Burton and just goes so damn freaky and its just so wrong. It's like she lives as Bellatrix all the time! Of course she is perfect in that part and I wish we saw more of her there.

However, she finally gets away from an onscreen Burton collaboration for The King's Speech and look what the hell happens! Good, serious, well done all around film. This begs the question, why would one want to make bizarre weird, freaky, sometimes ugly and so far out there pictures when one can make wonderful acclaimed film?

I don't know why if people do remakes and reboots that they just can't make it look like the old thing. I like Enterprise, but everyone said it had to be designed the way it was because making something in the TOS visual style simply wasn't feesible. In a Mirror Darkly proved that wrong! I would die with delight if Burton used that same old Collinswood stairway and drawing room.

Anyone have ratings info from the last time 'Syfy' showed DS in the mornings? Or comparable viewing numbers for the Revival on Hulu? Again, I wish a channel would just run a few episodes at Midnight or something. Would uncut eps get a million viewers? Netflix is starting to stream Collections 1 and 2. Dark Shadows is so huge and expensive that people might not buy into the original, but if it were easily on tv or streaming, wouldn't new vampy fans watch?

I began reviewing some of the extra discs in the series. My husband started me with Collections 11 and 12. When he asked why I wanted to start in the middle, I explained, "My favorite's Quentin!" :)

http://ithinkthereforeireview.blogspot.com/search/label/Dark Shadows
 
hopefully the original series will be re-released on dvd in time for the movie. and hopefully, with a reduced price.
 
hopefully the original series will be re-released on dvd in time for the movie. and hopefully, with a reduced price.
That was what always put me off on buying it. I wanted to, because I was curious about it, but the price for something that was, honestly, going to be a blind buy for me put me off.
 
For me the most obvious example of how far gone Burton is, is in fact Helena Bonham Carter. All those Ivory Merchant heavy serious period piece films with all the hardware and style- while not everyone's cup of tea, they were well made, finely acted shows. She gets with Burton and just goes so damn freaky and its just so wrong. It's like she lives as Bellatrix all the time! Of course she is perfect in that part and I wish we saw more of her there.

However, she finally gets away from an onscreen Burton collaboration for The King's Speech and look what the hell happens! Good, serious, well done all around film. This begs the question, why would one want to make bizarre weird, freaky, sometimes ugly and so far out there pictures when one can make wonderful acclaimed film?

Are you unaware of the inherent contradiction in your post? You state that you enjoy Ms. Bonham-Carter as Bellatrix Lestrange in the Harry Potter and then celebrate her getting away from "an onscreen Burton collaboration." Granted, The King's Speech is brilliant--and she's wonderful in it--but it's hardly the first time she's "gotten away" from working with her husband, since the Harry Potter films were not directed by Tim Burton. Also, your citation of her Burton work as "living as Bellatrix all the time" in such a negative context is incompatible with your immediate praise of said role.

I do agree that it's nice to see, in The King's Speech, Ms. Bonham-Carter do something a bit less outre, but she is awfully good at those "weird" roles, and since she and Burton work so well together, I'd hate to see them stop.
 
I doubt it. I'm sure they'll go for a PG-13 rating, not Sweeney Todd-style bloodletting.


In fact, I suspect it will a lot less gory than the first two Dark Shadows movies back in the 70's, which were much bloodier than the tv version.
i've never been able to track those down, but i heard they were very different from the series.


Trust me, they went way overboard with the blood. It was like Dan Curtis didn't have to worry about network censors anymore so he got a little carried away . . . .

There's a slow-motion staking scene, where the blood is flying everywhere, that seems to go on forever!
 
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