Episodes you disregard

[Diddle]

Nearly every episode from TOS' third season was completely expendable to me, but if I had to name one would be either The Paradise Syndrome or Plato's Stepchildren.

On TNG, the pilot, Encounter at Farpoint, of course, I mean what the fuck, space jellyfish, what what what what what. Plus Hide and Q and every single Troi episode ever made, absolutely no exceptions.

On DS9 I really can't tell, I still haven't finished watching it, but I'll most likely hate the pilot, so let it already be counting. (I never watch pilots first, they are almost always terrible and have a very high possibility for me to dislike the series altogether, so I leave it to watch it when I already like the series enough). From the episodes I've seen so far, I'd have to say Q-Less for dirty Oo-Max/Mox/Whatever, Vash and writers ruining Q even more than the usual misfire.

On Voyager, oh gee, well Threshold, but I guess that's standard, Equinox, The Disease, Q2, Fair Haven, 11:59, Unimatrix Zero, Human Error, The Caretaker and that's all I can remember. For the sake of argument, I really DO like Voyager. :P

Enterprise goes the same as DS9, though every episode I've seen so far were pretty good. Not that I've seen more than 5...
Edit - Coming to think of it, Enterprise's finale was pretty awful and I don't even know the character that much.

Never watched The Animated Series.

 

[Admiral Shran]

TOS - "Mudd's Women," "And The Children Shall Lead," "Spock's Brain"

TAS - I've only watched the first four episodes, so I'll hold my judgements.

TNG - "Encounter at Farpoint," "Justice," "Haven," "The Ourageous Okona," "The Dauphin," "The Royale," "Up The Long Ladder," "Shades of Grey," "The Ensigns of Command," "Who Watches the Watchers," "The High Ground," "The Masterpiece Society," "The Outcast" As you can see, I think TNG got off to a very rocky start.

DS9 - "Paradise," "Let He Who Is Without Sin," "Far Beyond the Stars," "Valiant"

VOY - "Tuvix," "The Fight," "11:59," "Fair Haven," "Spirit Folk," "Muse," "Repentance"

ENT - "Acquisition," "Cogenitor," "TATV"

 

[Piper]

I don't disregard any of them, not even TATV. Or Threshold. Or Fascination. Or Code of Honor. Or Turnabout Intruder. Life is hard sometimes.

 

[Delta1]

Life is hard, but fiction is easy. Take what you like, don't worry about the rest. The only people who really have to worry about continuity are the writers, and they've never been very good at it.

 

[maneth]

Indeed. I guess I should amend my earlier statement, I don't disregard the episodes as such, but they're very, very subpar, and I'm not sure whether or not I'd skip them on any rewatch.

 

[I am not Spock]

DS9 - " "Far Beyond the Stars,"

Wha?

 

[FormerLurker]

The worst part regarding the space jellyfish in Encounter at Farpoint is the really cheesy wire-work super-marionation. They should have gone with motion-control, or at least stop-motion, it would have looked so much better.

And I don't disregard any of them. They all happened. There's a reasonable explanation for why some of them seem so bad, we just don't know what it is.

 

[WillsBabe]

that you do not consider them as having happened within your personal continuity?

There's loads of stuff I don't like (there are entire shows of it! ) but the only thing I find I "disregard" (for want of a better term) is the warp 5 speed limit imposed in TNG's Force of Nature. Bravo, they were doing an environmental story. But, I found it hard that something I gone to for 25 years as an escape from and antidote to the real world was doing damage to a fictional environment.

 

[Timewalker]

Enterprise, for me, never happened. ANY of it.

 

[Deckerd]

DS9 - " "Far Beyond the Stars,"

Wha?

which one was that? I never remember any titles.

Anything from any of the series with a mirror universe, followed by time travel*, followed by holo-suite mini adventures were all on a continuum of rubbish. Because the ST universe is so boring, they needed to invent new ones.


*ST IV excepted since this is one of the funniest films ever.

 

[captcalhoun]

Far Beyond the Stars is the Benny Russell '50s one.

i disregard Spock's Brain, Way to Eden, Threshold and TATV.

i retcon The Host.

 

[Deckerd]

I quite enjoyed the Benny Russell story because it was well written and it had a cheeky self-awareness speech at the end by Sisko. However what the hell it had to do with a space station set in the future is a mystery. If you want to set the cast in a different setting with different rules, it was done much, much better in Voyager when the whole crew were brainwashed and sent to work on a planet. That was completely excellent.

 

[Training]

The episode in ENT where Daniel said the Klingons would join the Federation. Yeah Eddington was right. The Federation is a Borg... but in a nice way.



I personally liked "Far Beyond the Stars". A good episode. One of my favourite trek shows of all time.

 

[EJA]

I personally liked "Far Beyond the Stars". A good episode. One of my favourite trek shows of all time.

Mine too.

 

[Mach5]

The beauty of Trek being fictional is that you can disregard anything you want.

Some people are burdened with canon, obsessed even... I find that pretty ridiculous and, in the end, pathetic.

That being said, "ST V - TFF" does not exist in my Star Trek, neither does "Code of Honor," "Sub Rosa," 25% of entire Voyager, and especially not "These Are (not) The (f##ing) Voyages."

Like it or not, Star Trek XI changed the game, and rendered canon a dead letter. Anything goes.

 

[Withers]

I personally liked "Far Beyond the Stars". A good episode. One of my favourite trek shows of all time.

Mine three.

Some people are burdened with canon, obsessed even... I find that pretty ridiculous and, in the end, pathetic.

Of course you can but then one wonders, if so much of the series was so reprehensible you disregard large chunks of it and discussion of things like cannon violation is so ridiculous and pathetic, why join a forum 10 years (depending on what you're talking about specifically) after the fact?
I didn't like that Sisko ultimately gave Garak such a large token to blackmail him with but if I just wrote it off and said it never happened there are things about the DS9 story that wouldn't make any sense.

So, sure, cut out and disregard whatever you want but don't pretend like doing so makes you more "open minded" than the cannon sticklers.

Like it or not, Star Trek XI changed the game, and rendered canon a dead letter. Anything goes.

...for everything that comes after it. The six series and ten movies that came before it, however, are still very much self contained.



-Withers-​

 

[Mach5]

Of course you can but then one wonders, if so much of the series was so reprehensible you disregard large chunks of it

I'm not following... I do like most of Star Trek, I really do. What I don't like, I just ignore, and I hate when someone tries to tell me that something cannot be ignored because it is canon. And I do know a lot of people who consider canon to be a Holy Bible or something...

So, sure, cut out and disregard whatever you want but don't pretend like doing so makes you more "open minded" than the cannon sticklers.

Uhm, yeah, okay, sure...

Like it or not, Star Trek XI changed the game, and rendered canon a dead letter. Anything goes.

...for everything that comes after it. The six series and ten movies that came before it, however, are still very much self contained.

Not really. Star Trek XI belongs to the old Trek as much as it belongs to the new one, the one it created. Prime universe events and characters that appear in it prove this.

 

[Kai Winn]

I quite enjoyed the Benny Russell story because it was well written and it had a cheeky self-awareness speech at the end by Sisko. However what the hell it had to do with a space station set in the future is a mystery. If you want to set the cast in a different setting with different rules, it was done much, much better in Voyager when the whole crew were brainwashed and sent to work on a planet. That was completely excellent.

yes, but it also had benny's nervous breakdown which was an embarrassment to watch. since i'm revisting ds9 at the moment, i'd like to add some of their poor episodes. "waltz", and "heart of stone". ds9 seems to be particularly bad
when two characters share an entire episode.

 

[EJA]

As bad as "Encounter at Farpoint" is, I honestly don't think I could ever disregard it, as it is the beginning of TNG, establishing all the characters and the general time period.

 

[SFRabid]

As much as I hate some of them I don't think there are any episodes that I totally disreguard. There are some events that I try to forget. Many of those are in TOS/TAS.

Travel to the edge of the galaxy.
Travel to the center of the galaxy.
Travel back in time by slingshotting around the sun. This sets up the premis that humans can travel in time at will.