Episode; Tapestry

[RobertScorpio]

Wow...

I love this episode. Definately my favorite Picard episode, simply because it makes him more human than just about any other episode. PLUS he gets have sex with a woman half his age, even if that!...

I like it on several levels. It shows Picard that many of those character traits he seems to hide in his later years were the ones that got him to where he is. Discounting his rebel youth is like Kirk discounting his aggressive side in Enemy With In.

And what about Q in all of this? I would have loved to see Q in a TREK movie. Why BERMAN never saw Q as an asset to a TNG movie is beyond me. He was the one 'Nemesis' (ahem!) that needed no forced backstory to introduce him with.

Tapestry is just as good now as when I first saw it all those, and wow aren't we getting old, years ago. I think that episode is, what, 15 years old now? Shit..I was still young then!!!


Great episode..go ahead and rate it while you are here..

Rob
scorpio

 

[PhoenixIreland]

Wow...

I love this episode. Definately my favorite Picard episode, simply because it makes him more human than just about any other episode. PLUS he gets have sex with a woman half his age, even if that!...

I like it on several levels. It shows Picard that many of those character traits he seems to hide in his later years were the ones that got him to where he is. Discounting his rebel youth is like Kirk discounting his aggressive side in Enemy With In.

And what about Q in all of this? I would have loved to see Q in a TREK movie. Why BERMAN never saw Q as an asset to a TNG movie is beyond me. He was the one 'Nemesis' (ahem!) that needed no forced backstory to introduce him with.

Tapestry is just as good now as when I first saw it all those, and wow aren't we getting old, years ago. I think that episode is, what, 15 years old now? Shit..I was still young then!!!


Great episode..go ahead and rate it while you are here..

Rob
scorpio

I split ST into two categories space episodes and "moral of the story" episodes, sometimes they're combined but usually one more than the other... this case was 100% the latter.
It was easily one of the best, it explored the whole "if I could do things diffrently" angle and showd that going back and changing things may actually make them worse, and the present may be the best case scenario.

The speach at the end is the best:

"The Jean-Luc Picard you wanted to be, the one who did not fight the Nausicaan, had quite a different career from the one you remember. That Picard never had a brush with death. Never came face to face with his own mortality. Never realized how fragile life is or how important each moment must be. So his life never came into focus. He drifted through much of his career, with no plan or agenda, going from one assignment to the next, never seizing the opportunities that presented themselves. He never led the away-team on Milika III to save the ambassador, or take charge of the Stargazer's bridge, when its captain was killed. And no one ever offered him a command. He learned to play it safe – and he never, ever, got noticed by anyone!"
- Q to Picard and it had some funny dialoge that could only be written for Q

"...it's a beautiful story. It gets you right here, doesn't it?"
- Q, pointing generally at his heart (where Picard was stabbed) and mocking sympathy."You will go on with your life with a real heart."
"Then I won't die."
"Of course you'll die! It'll just be at a later time."
"What if I don't avoid the fight? What if I won't make the changes?"
"Then you die on the table, and we spend eternity together."
"Wonderful..."
"I'm glad you think so."

- Q and Picard

"Welcome to the afterlife, Jean-Luc. You're dead."
- Q to Picard
"Q, what is going on?"
"I told you. You're dead, this is the afterlife, and I'm God."
"You are not God!"
"Blasphemy! You're lucky I don't cast you out or smite you or something."
- Picard and Q
"I refuse to believe that the afterlife is run by you; the universe is not so badly designed."
- Picard, to Q
"My only regret is dying and finding you here."
- Picard, to Q
"Change them? You mean change the past? Q, even if you have been able to bring me back to the past somehow, surely you must realize that any alteration in this timeline will have a profound impact on the future."
"Please! Spare me your egotistical musings on your pivotal role in history. Nothing you do here will cause the Federation to collapse or galaxies to explode. To be blunt, you're not that important."

- Picard and Q

 

[Immolatus]

Wow...

I love this episode. Definately my favorite Picard episode, simply because it makes him more human than just about any other episode. PLUS he gets have sex with a woman half his age, even if that!...

I like it on several levels. It shows Picard that many of those character traits he seems to hide in his later years were the ones that got him to where he is. Discounting his rebel youth is like Kirk discounting his aggressive side in Enemy With In.

And what about Q in all of this? I would have loved to see Q in a TREK movie. Why BERMAN never saw Q as an asset to a TNG movie is beyond me. He was the one 'Nemesis' (ahem!) that needed no forced backstory to introduce him with.

Tapestry is just as good now as when I first saw it all those, and wow aren't we getting old, years ago. I think that episode is, what, 15 years old now? Shit..I was still young then!!!


Great episode..go ahead and rate it while you are here..

Rob
scorpio

I split ST into two categories space episodes and "moral of the story" episodes, sometimes they're combined but usually one more than the other... this case was 100% the latter.
It was easily one of the best, it explored the whole "if I could do things diffrently" angle and showd that going back and changing things may actually make them worse, and the present may be the best case scenario.

The speach at the end is the best:

"The Jean-Luc Picard you wanted to be, the one who did not fight the Nausicaan, had quite a different career from the one you remember. That Picard never had a brush with death. Never came face to face with his own mortality. Never realized how fragile life is or how important each moment must be. So his life never came into focus. He drifted through much of his career, with no plan or agenda, going from one assignment to the next, never seizing the opportunities that presented themselves. He never led the away-team on Milika III to save the ambassador, or take charge of the Stargazer's bridge, when its captain was killed. And no one ever offered him a command. He learned to play it safe – and he never, ever, got noticed by anyone!"
- Q to Picard and it had some funny dialoge that could only be written for Q

"...it's a beautiful story. It gets you right here, doesn't it?"
- Q, pointing generally at his heart (where Picard was stabbed) and mocking sympathy."You will go on with your life with a real heart."
"Then I won't die."
"Of course you'll die! It'll just be at a later time."
"What if I don't avoid the fight? What if I won't make the changes?"
"Then you die on the table, and we spend eternity together."
"Wonderful..."
"I'm glad you think so."

- Q and Picard

"Welcome to the afterlife, Jean-Luc. You're dead."
- Q to Picard
"Q, what is going on?"
"I told you. You're dead, this is the afterlife, and I'm God."
"You are not God!"
"Blasphemy! You're lucky I don't cast you out or smite you or something."
- Picard and Q
"I refuse to believe that the afterlife is run by you; the universe is not so badly designed."
- Picard, to Q
"My only regret is dying and finding you here."
- Picard, to Q
"Change them? You mean change the past? Q, even if you have been able to bring me back to the past somehow, surely you must realize that any alteration in this timeline will have a profound impact on the future."
"Please! Spare me your egotistical musings on your pivotal role in history. Nothing you do here will cause the Federation to collapse or galaxies to explode. To be blunt, you're not that important."

- Picard and Q

I really do miss Q

 

[Aramis]

I've only seen a hodgepodge of TNG eps, but this one was by far the best. I loved it -- it made me really like Picard.

 

[Unicron]

"The universe is not so badly designed" is a great line.

 

[Michael]

And what about Q in all of this? I would have loved to see Q in a TREK movie. Why BERMAN never saw Q as an asset to a TNG movie is beyond me.

In my opinion a Q movie would have never worked. An omnipotent being makes for weak drama. Don't get me wrong, I like the Q character (mostly because of John De Lancie's hilarious performance), but I think he only works for the occasional comedy episode, not for an entire movie. Some Voyager episodes illustrate what happens when you take the Q continuum too seriously. I don't want to see that happen on the big screen.

 

[tomalak301]

I'd put it in my top 5 or even 3. It's a gem of an episode from a gem of a season.

 

[Lilith]

PLUS he gets have sex with a woman half his age, even if that!...

I have to ask, what is this recent obsession with Picard getting laid by younger women in order to be one of the "cool" guys? I saw a similar thing mentioned in a few different topics over the last week.

 

[Yassim]

In my opinion a Q movie would have never worked. An omnipotent being makes for weak drama.

All Good Things... would have made a much better movie than Generations. IMHO.

Q can't be the enemy per se, but in a Q Who or AGT scenario, he could have been great. If a little overused at that point (see True Q and all his appearances on VOY).

 

[Good Will Riker]

PLUS he gets have sex with a woman half his age, even if that!...

I have to ask, what is this recent obsession with Picard getting laid by younger women in order to be one of the "cool" guys? I saw a similar thing mentioned in a few different topics over the last week.

Patrick Stewart (born in 1940) is currently dating an actress born in 1979.

 

[AlphaMan]

Tapestry is not only one of Trek's finest hours, it's one of the finest hours of television ever.

 

[Lilith]

PLUS he gets have sex with a woman half his age, even if that!...

I have to ask, what is this recent obsession with Picard getting laid by younger women in order to be one of the "cool" guys? I saw a similar thing mentioned in a few different topics over the last week.

Patrick Stewart (born in 1940) is currently dating an actress born in 1979.

So?

 

[Ro_Laren]

Definitely one of my favorite TNG episodes. I don't own a lot of episodes from this series (even though it is my favorite Trek series), but Tapestry is one of the episodes I do own.

 

[Terra Pryme]

Pretty good episode. My one problem though was with the overhead shot of Picard lying on the operation table. Other than his head, he looked like he was flattened by a steamroller. It just looked so weird.

 

[Saxman1]

In my opinion a Q movie would have never worked. An omnipotent being makes for weak drama.

All Good Things... would have made a much better movie than Generations. IMHO.

Q can't be the enemy per se, but in a Q Who or AGT scenario, he could have been great. If a little overused at that point (see True Q and all his appearances on VOY).

AGT IS a much better movie than Generations: it just happens to be a television movie.

I don't know if this is urban legend or what, but I remember reading somewhere that Generations was originally to be the end of the television series and AGT was slated to be the first theatrical film. However, the suits at Paramount decided the "big event" of the two captains meeting had to be saved for movie theatres.

 

[Michael]

Just rewatched the episode the other day. And yes, this really was very entertaining. That's one fine hour of television.

 

[Basill]

Certainly one of my favorites. Haven't seen it in a while. May be about time.

 

[Evil Twin]

This is one of my three all-time favorite TNG episodes, along with "The Measure of a Man" and "The Best of Both Worlds, Part I".

 

[erastus25]

One of my personal top 10.

However, I do have to disagree with most and admit that I liked this episode in spite of Q. I thought he had become rather lame after his first couple appearances. He lost that menacing super-villain nature he seemed to have in the first season or two and become more of a running gag than anything else. By the end of Voyager he reminded me more of Kazoo from The Flintstones than the supercool character from Encounter at Farpoint.

Besides, The Inner Light isn't a Q episode anyway - it's all a near-death vision inside Picard's head.

 

[PhoenixIreland]

One of my personal top 10.

However, I do have to disagree with most and admit that I liked this episode in spite of Q. I thought he had become rather lame after his first couple appearances. He lost that menacing super-villain nature he seemed to have in the first season or two and become more of a running gag than anything else. By the end of Voyager he reminded me more of Kazoo from The Flintstones than the supercool character from Encounter at Farpoint.

Besides, The Inner Light isn't a Q episode anyway - it's all a near-death vision inside Picard's head.

I thought he was just plan annoying in EAFP.
I liked the comedy aspect to him, he never worked as a real villan for me.