Poll Episode "Prey". Janeway vs. Seven of Nine

[CaptainKate91]

I love Star Trek for being a series with a moral center. However, who agrees with me that Janeway was "reckless", solely lacking in the objectivity that Seven had.

"Prey" was the episode where Janeway wanted Seven to open a singularity for the wounded Species 8472 to escape from the Hirogen.

 

[Catarina]

Given that it was in telepathic link with Tuvok who saw it just wanted to go home, I think Janeway was wise this time... it could have secured unspoken peace without that lame episode following it.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Ditto.

 

[somebuddyX]

I haven't seen this one since it originally aired but I thought they both had convincing arguments.

 

[Tanyanoel]

I was torn, both had a good point.

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

I think that both had good reasons there but whoever was right or wrong, Janeway was the one getting the last word at the end, as Capitain of Voyager.

 

[Terok Nor]

It was a convincing argument from both sides but I wanted the alien to get back home so I was saddened by its fate.

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

It was a convincing argument from both sides but I wanted the alien to get back home so I was saddened by its fate.

I think that a great majority of us wanted that the alien get back home safe and sound...

 

[Deks]

Given the principles and types of behaviors Humans in the 24th century are supposed to exhibit... Janeway was definitely in the right.
Seven of nine hesitated and had she actually opened that rift when she was asked to, there might have been something akin to several 8472 bioships coming through and destroying (or at least fending off) those Hirogen ships.
The wounded 8472 on Voyager would have gotten a pretty good idea on what the Federation is about from Tuvok given the telepathic link, which he could have shared with other 8472's.

At the very least, it could have secured a temporary truce in the case of Voyager and leave an opening that once the Federation advances more, they could potentially revisit 8472.

One thing that strikes me as odd is that how the heck couldn't have the crew of voyager done it without Seven?
They had detailed info about Seven opening a rift the second time around (when they were in Fluidic space).
And I fairly doubt that since that time no one would have taken the time to analyze the readings or that the computer couldn't have reproduced the procedure entirely on it's own (it would know the modifications were made and in what arrangements, and besides most Borg modifications were initially left intact, sans the ones that later gave issues with the Warp drive).

 

[DonIago]

^It wouldn't be the first time that things were done utilizing the computer that Our Heroes subsequently found difficult or impossible to reproduce, and I'm willing to bet that Seven's computer hacking skills are well above average.

Janeway was, idealistically speaking, more correct from a moral standpoint. OTOH, her plan could well have gotten VOY destroyed in service of a lifeform that to this point had largely shown unremitting hostility.

No easy answer.

 

[LJones41]

Given that it was in telepathic link with Tuvok who saw it just wanted to go home, I think Janeway was wise this time... it could have secured unspoken peace without that lame episode following it.

If you're talking about "In the Flesh", I do not consider it to be lame.

In regard to the situation in "Prey", I agree with Donlago in that it was a no win situation.

 

[Paradise City]

It's a moral dilemma that the writers to underpin the series with, with mixed success. Do you sacrifice your interests and your safety for the well being of a third party? Or do you sacrifice the interest of that innocent third party, whilst you enjoy the fruits of their distress? Starships are supposed to be altruistic, so Janeway's way is Starfleet's way, whereas Seven's perspective was that of brute self interest and ensuring you do everything you can to optimise one's chances to survive.

 

[Sophie74656]

I think in principle Janeway was right, that's what the Federation stands for. But I did understand where 7 was coming from.

 

[Catarina]

If you're talking about "In the Flesh", I do not consider it to be lame.

In regard to the situation in "Prey", I agree with Donlago in that it was a no win situation.

I am and it's just my simple opinion. I believe the characters were simplified in that episode. Meaning, I just expected such a rich and complex species. I can see the potential 'we're really friendly and misunderstood' angle but it just felt rushed to shove on to the next storyline. I wasn't satisfied. I thought they stinted such a fantastic race. If that makes sense. i cannot articulate what I feel to the fullest but it felt off.

 

[Sophie74656]

The concept of In The Flesh was scary to me. How they could perfectly disguise themselves and sneak in.
Plus at the end of the episode Boothby say he doesn't know if the others would agree to the peace. In my headcanon they don't and later they attack in the AQ...this is a movie idea floating in my head hehe

 

[Voth commando1]

Janeway was willing to destroy the ship all for the sake of getting a creature home that could have caused havoc and was, also the hirogen had six ships and demanded it-Seven saved everybody's life-including Janeway, if I were a random crew member I probably would have not liked Janeway taking Seven on but on learning she saved my life while standing against the captain's hard headedness and blind devotion to principle(um we're like 50,000 lyers away)-after that I would have followed the ex Borg in a mutiny. No dang the crew ought to have mutinied as soon as Janeway decided to throw away their lives to satiate her emotional and irrational need to see her morals carried out.