Episode of the Week : Wolf in the Fold
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That beautiful belly dancer at the beginning dancing to the Vina theme makes the episode an immediate and instant "10", but some of the over-the-top nature of it towards the end, decrease its score by 2-3 points, so a 7 for me.
I also love the character byplay between Kirk and McCoy as they leave the "strip club". I wish they had made it to that place they were heading to before the first murder. I've always been curious about it.
I also love the character byplay between Kirk and McCoy as they leave the "strip club". I wish they had made it to that place they were heading to before the first murder. I've always been curious about it.
I voted 9.
I really like this one. I like the juxtaposition of horror into the Star Trek setting. I would think a lot more episodes could really fall into this category, the unknown is very scary. And a realistic, if you permit the word, scary as there could be some really dangerous things out there.
My only complaint is how many times they mention Scotty's head injury. It seems somewhat repetitive, even though it's on their minds, it's like they were worried we'd forget. Maybe it was to convince people like Roddenberry as well as fans at home that "Scotty would never do that!" After all, if it was a stranger or new character, maybe it would be that person, but not Scotty. This "head injury" tries to make some doubt, but I don't think anyone really thinks Scotty is the murderer. Well, execpt that one blue guy:
I know I will be hit with the rubber chicken over the head for this but I voted the same for Doomsday Machine as this but I want to clarify I'm voting for my favorites that I think are good episodes, not just what everyone thinks are the best episodes.
I really like this one. I like the juxtaposition of horror into the Star Trek setting. I would think a lot more episodes could really fall into this category, the unknown is very scary. And a realistic, if you permit the word, scary as there could be some really dangerous things out there.
My only complaint is how many times they mention Scotty's head injury. It seems somewhat repetitive, even though it's on their minds, it's like they were worried we'd forget. Maybe it was to convince people like Roddenberry as well as fans at home that "Scotty would never do that!" After all, if it was a stranger or new character, maybe it would be that person, but not Scotty. This "head injury" tries to make some doubt, but I don't think anyone really thinks Scotty is the murderer. Well, execpt that one blue guy:
I know I will be hit with the rubber chicken over the head for this but I voted the same for Doomsday Machine as this but I want to clarify I'm voting for my favorites that I think are good episodes, not just what everyone thinks are the best episodes.
I agree that the horror element is an intriguing addition to TOS and I used to love this one.
Over the years, however, I've grown to dislike it. The blatant sexism, and the silliness of seances, psycho-tricorders, and Jack the Ripper as a literal ghost make this one tough to watch now. 3/10 from me.
Over the years, however, I've grown to dislike it. The blatant sexism, and the silliness of seances, psycho-tricorders, and Jack the Ripper as a literal ghost make this one tough to watch now. 3/10 from me.
I always felt cheated because we never got to see the explosion or circumstances that would have caused a brain injury to Scotty; we are only told about it. To further that; in the episode it is mentioned that it was caused by a woman and that Scotty held some resentment towards women. Well what was it? It was never explained at all so for me the episode lacked something from the beginning; as if we are only getting part of the story and part of the facts. Basically we are being told what to believe instead of witnessing it. As I said; a cheat.
The whole plot is stupid. They invent a creature totally invulnerable and then make it act stupidly so it could be eventually captured. The story could have worked as a joke or a parody, unfortunately it hasn't been written that way. So it fails on both counts, as a serious story and as a camp/comedic one.
I think it works as a dramatic story, but I think Doohan just didn't have the chops to pull it off effectively.
How exactly is a non-corporeal entity suppose to act? I like that it acts against our expectations.
A dreadful episode, cringe-inducing and embarrassing to watch. This episode itself should be charged with murder -- specifically, character assassination for what it did to Kirk, McCoy and especially Scotty.
Watching three adult professionals acting like overgrown frat boys in a strip club was bad enough, but the idea that Scotty has developed a "total resentment toward women" because he was thrown against a bulkhead in an explosion caused by a woman? Ludicrous.
The psycho-tricorder thing is pretty ridiculous as well; I don't even want to know what orifice the writers pulled that one out of. Redjac's cackling, Sulu and the others acting more high than sedated ... both eyeroll-inducing.
Spock is the only one who manages to come out of this steaming stinker of an episode with dignity intact.
I'd rate it a 2.
Watching three adult professionals acting like overgrown frat boys in a strip club was bad enough, but the idea that Scotty has developed a "total resentment toward women" because he was thrown against a bulkhead in an explosion caused by a woman? Ludicrous.
The psycho-tricorder thing is pretty ridiculous as well; I don't even want to know what orifice the writers pulled that one out of. Redjac's cackling, Sulu and the others acting more high than sedated ... both eyeroll-inducing.
Spock is the only one who manages to come out of this steaming stinker of an episode with dignity intact.
I'd rate it a 2.
I thought they were acting drunk but high works too.
I think it works as a dramatic story, but I think Doohan just didn't have the chops to pull it off effectively.
How exactly is a non-corporeal entity suppose to act? I like that it acts against our expectations.
I don't see how you could capture a creature that can switch bodies anytime it wants unless it lets you. This story is idiotic. Invent an unbeatable foe and then make it act stupid so it can be beat. That's the worst kind of plot one can imagine.
It would be like a Sherlock Holmes story where after having achieved the perfect crime the criminal would write a confession on a piece of paper and leave it at the scene of the crime.
Pitiful!
A solid 8. Robert Block with another winner. I understand why some don't like it as it's a somewhat atypical episode. Also, there are some plot points that are a bit shaky. But perhaps the biggest drawback is the lack of Spock in the first half, brought on by the production team's need to downplay Nimoy's character after the actor was nominated for an Emmy for the second time... resulting in a very unhappy un-nominated (again) Shatner!
You don't mean it was Shatner's vendetta against Nimoy, do you?
Did Scotty have this bout of misogyny for real? Just watch Kirk and McCoy actually discuss the issue: the context and the body language sort of suggest the exact opposite.
McCoy brings up something that never happened, even if it might have (when pigs fly!): "Scotty could have come to resent women". Kirk comments that it's plain as a day that it didn't happen - "just look at him go". McCoy plays along, claiming Scotty is now a barely ambulatory patient in need of severe medical care, which is what he's administering now. And then Kirk puts an end to the silly joke and moves on. It's really among the wittier parts of the dialogue, and quite fitting of the ambiance.
Timo Saloniemi
McCoy brings up something that never happened, even if it might have (when pigs fly!): "Scotty could have come to resent women". Kirk comments that it's plain as a day that it didn't happen - "just look at him go". McCoy plays along, claiming Scotty is now a barely ambulatory patient in need of severe medical care, which is what he's administering now. And then Kirk puts an end to the silly joke and moves on. It's really among the wittier parts of the dialogue, and quite fitting of the ambiance.
Timo Saloniemi
Yeah, I didn't quite get that. But I did know I didn't like hearing it.
On a separate note: IDIC and Prime Directive. The planet prides itself on being a "strip club" planet. Who are we to interfere?
::waits for sensitive, holier than thou responses::
Yeah, really. There's been a lot of that in this thread.
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