Episode "Drone"

[USS Excelsior]

I know at the end "One" decided that he should no longer exist since he would make Voyager more of a target, and then there's the risk that his technology could be assimilated.

But by using that logic then the Doctor's mobile emitter shouldn't exist either because if that gets assimilated then the same 29th Century technology would be assimilated anyway.

Even if the Borg aren't aware of it. Voyager's always a target.

 

[GalaxyX]

What annoyed me the most is that Borg Technology on it's own is supposed to be thousands, if not tens of thousands of years more advanced than the Federation (since they have been around much much longer). So a "regular" Borg should already be far more advanced than even 29th Century technology. So how is it that a 29th Century Borg is so much more advanced??

 

[USS Excelsior]

That would conflict with the plot of course. The Borg have to have "vulnerabilities" to exploit since there wouldn't be much of a show if they just instantly ran over everyone.

Maybe that comment about the Borg being around for 1000s of centuries was a mistake.

 

[kimc]

I know at the end "One" decided that he should no longer exist since he would make Voyager more of a target, and then there's the risk that his technology could be assimilated.

But by using that logic then the Doctor's mobile emitter shouldn't exist either because if that gets assimilated then the same 29th Century technology would be assimilated anyway.

Even if the Borg aren't aware of it. Voyager's always a target.

I see where you're going but while Voyager was always a target and the borg were probably planning on finishing them off anyway once they had One by beaming over One put himself into the position to destroy that particular cube and take care of the immediate threat.

Wow, that was a long sentence. My fingers are tired...

 

[Wicca who Wonta]

I know at the end "One" decided that he should no longer exist since he would make Voyager more of a target, and then there's the risk that his technology could be assimilated.

But by using that logic then the Doctor's mobile emitter shouldn't exist either because if that gets assimilated then the same 29th Century technology would be assimilated anyway.

Even if the Borg aren't aware of it. Voyager's always a target.

For me the episode is about how Seven had developed emotionally and that she'd choose Voyager over the Borg. One and the technology featured in the episode were just a way of getting there.

 

[The Borg Queen]

So One decided to die so that the Borg would no longer chase after Voyager.

How would the Borg know that One had died in the first place?

Why would the Borg think that Voyager didn't make detailed scans of One's distinctiveness and keep records, or that Voyager would keep his technological components in storage?

 

[THE_FETT]

In the Scorpion episode, the Borg couldn't build their own tech to fight 8472 and Janeway said that the Borg were at a disadvantage to others because they didn't acquire knowledge through investigation, but through assimilation.

Of course, then some episodes later, Seven talks about how the Borg were investigating the Omega particle, so...

 

[The Borg Queen]

Back to "Drone" perhaps you could say One knew the borg would never expect an individual to sacrifice his life so he had the element of surprise.

The Borg would never expect an individual to regard themself as expendable when the safety of their collective is at stake?

 

[THE_FETT]

Back to "Drone" perhaps you could say One knew the borg would never expect an individual to sacrifice his life so he had the element of surprise.

The Borg would never expect an individual to regard themself as expendable when the safety of their collective is at stake?

a kinder edit since I just noticed the mod was recently modified: I didn't post that. My original post is contained in the quotes attributed to one "GalaxyX" and apparently there's been an accidental editing of my post by kimc. So...

Dogpile on the mod! (leaps on kimc)

 

[kimc]

a kinder edit since I just noticed the mod was recently modified: I didn't post that. My original post is contained in the quotes attributed to one "GalaxyX" and apparently there's been an accidental editing of my post by kimc. So...

Yikes, I didn't notice that as mod I have an "Edit" button next to "Quote". I will fix it now.

Dogpile on the mod! (leaps on kimc)

Or mabye later...

 

[kimc]

In the Scorpion episode, the Borg couldn't build their own tech to fight 8472 and Janeway said that the Borg were at a disadvantage to others because they didn't acquire knowledge through investigation, but through assimilation.

Of course, then some episodes later, Seven talks about how the Borg were investigating the Omega particle, so...

I think you've just clarified why I've always been bothered by the whole "Omega particle as the borg God" angle of "The Omega Directive." The borg have no free will so for them to have any kind of spirituality was a bit of a stretch for me.

Back to "Drone" perhaps you could say One knew the borg would never expect an individual to sacrifice his life so he had the element of surprise.

Note: Well, that's how my original post was supposed to look. My apologies for getting confused over all the new, shiny buttons.

 

[Natural]

The mobile emitter vs. Borg argument is one that's conveniently forgotten about outside of this episode for the sake of story telling. If this wasn't the case, literally every episode involving the Borg would come down to a relentless pursuit of the mobile emitter. There's even that one episode where Janeway hand delivers the mobile emitter to the Borg Queen when she takes the doctor with her to rescue Seven. Anyway, I'm sure if you sat down and thought about every instance that the Borg went easy on Voyager, or the Doctor being allowed to take his mobile emitter off the ship with minimal security, there would be a long list of opportunities. But it would have been bad story telling, had the writers been forced to deal with this potential problem constantly.

 

[Deks]

Well, there is this fact that the Federation was able to repel a Borg cube twice.
The first time was just barely, and the second time it was easier with far less losses ... and that was in a span of just several years.

The feds are also developing technologically quite fast in comparison to your average race (or at the very least that's how they were portrayed) ... and they became interested in the Federation and it's technology upon first encounter.
The Feds would continuously construct new technologies in order to try and gain an upper hand when fighting the Borg (even if it's temporarily).
Since the Borg depend on assimilating knowledge of other races in order to enhance themselves ...

Also ... Guinan only mentioned that the Borg conscience was developing for hundreds of thousands of millennia ... the technological aspect could have arrived at a much later date, at about 1000 years (or maybe more) before Picard and his crew encountered them.

After all, they would be in quite an infancy back then and would barely have the ability to assimilate anyone of worth apart from the Vadwuar (I think that's their name).

But if you want to get to the business then this particular episode wanted to focus on 7's emotional growth.