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Spoilers Episode 7 "Nepenthe"

Rate 1x07 Nepenthe

  • 10 - Wild Beard Riker

    Votes: 110 36.9%
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  • 5 - Full Beard Riker

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  • 1 - Season 1 Riker

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I'm not familiar with this, but I'd say that the Troi-Rikers were grasping at an unconventional solution. Notably, it didn't work. Planet grows great vegetables =/= magical panacea planet.
Like going to Casablanca for the waters. :rommie:

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How did she know that injecting herself with noranium hydride would destroy the tracker?
Don't know if this was taken from any kind of behind the scenes material from the show or anything, but according to the novel The Last Best Hope, Agnes did have a background as a medical doctor before she went into cybernetics.
Even if we disregard it as non-canon (there were people who complained that the crew accepted her reasoning for why Maddox died, because they didn't explicitly confirm her as an MD on screen), I don't think it ultimately matters either way... she looked like she knew exactly what she was doing, and that was enough for me. Most scientists are basically omnidisciplinary on TV anyway, but realistically speaking, I'd find it very surprising if she were only knowledgeable about cybernetics and completely ignorant of everything else (her ignorance of the size of the galaxy notwithstanding, which she herself admitted was a topic she didn't care for). It might be as simple as asking the computer about the composition of digestible Vulcan trackers and then asking what would dissolve those minerals, but they chose not to draw the scene out with that.
 
Most scientists are basically omnidisciplinary on TV anyway

Especially in Star Trek.

I think there's two ways to look at it... 1. She knew how the tracker would work and knew that her death would neutralise it hoping the EMH would be able to revive her or 2. she felt that guilty over killing Maddox and betraying the people she is with (whether she feels any kind of friendship with them doesn't matter, no matter what she has done she seems to a good person) she really was trying to kill herself whether she knew it would disable the tracker or not.

For me either works.

I liked how the EMH cut off the usual "what is the nature" line when he saw her on the floor, up until that point I'd wondered if she had somehow disabled the EMH system altogether maybe along with the other holograms seeming Raffi seemed to have trouble asking for the Hospitality program.
 
Especially in Star Trek.

I think there's two ways to look at it... 1. She knew how the tracker would work and knew that her death would neutralise it hoping the EMH would be able to revive her or 2. she felt that guilty over killing Maddox and betraying the people she is with (whether she feels any kind of friendship with them doesn't matter, no matter what she has done she seems to a good person) she really was trying to kill herself whether she knew it would disable the tracker or not.

For me either works.

I imagine we'll have a definitive answer right after she wakes up. No sense thinking too hard about this meanwhile.
 
Given the way Riker talked about Crandall, I pictured some Jimmy Buffett Margaritaville looking guy hanging around the beach bars on Napenthe and talking up all his space stories over the decades. Some of which might even be true.

♫ But there's this one particular harbour
So far but yet so near
Where I see the days as they fade away
And finally disappear...
...
♫ Most mysterious calling harbour
So far but yet so near
I can see the day when my hair's full gray
And I finally disappear ♫​

- Jimmy Buffett, One Particular Harbour


Oh no. It's going to be Mudd, isn't it? :brickwall:

A few minutes of thinking about how he's even older than Picard, and I'm already convinced.
Prime Lorca.
 
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It may not have been a deliberate attempt at suicide. She may have known there was a risk of death but the chances of disabling the tracking device/transponder may have been too great to not risk her own life to cut Commodore Oh and the Romulans off her trail.
 
It may not have been a deliberate attempt at suicide. She may have known there was a risk of death but the chances of disabling the tracking device/transponder may have been too great to not risk her own life to cut Commodore Oh and the Romulans off her trail.

I think that's the only sensible read. The warning for the compound she orders up is only that "there may be neurotoxic effects." An actual suicide attempt would involve something a bit more lethal, surely.
 
And not so much dramatic buildup with the ship's computer telling us of the toxic side effects. She would have simply replicated the hypospray, injected it and been found by the EMH.
 
Sorry if it was discussed yet... Just wonder what a distance this tracking device can be detected? Looks like it is lightyears range. No wonder when a long-range tracking beacon is hidden on the hull of Millenium Falcon, but in the human body? And if the device transmits a signal in active mode, what a quantitiy of energy it takes and where?
 
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