Ep 10x02 Smile - a homage to...?

[Timby]

The Zygon story is heavy-handed and preachy, and suffers from an overly simplistic view towards very complex matters in our own world's current events. But nothing is worse than Forest of the Night. Seriously, that's special type of bad. Worse than Twin Dilemma, worse than Class.

They're both execrable and never should have seen the light of day, Forest because of its reprehensible "hey, kids, it's a great idea to stop taking your meds" message, and Zygon Inversion because of its rather blatant xenophobia (especially with the Zygons being a thinly veiled Muslim metaphor).

 

[kirk55555]

The Zygon story is heavy-handed and preachy, and suffers from an overly simplistic view towards very complex matters in our own world's current events. But nothing is worse than Forest of the Night. Seriously, that's special type of bad. Worse than Twin Dilemma, worse than Class.

I like The Twin Dilemma . I'd also watch ITFOTN 3-4 times in a row then the Zygon Two parter once, even though I hate ITFOTN a lot.

Worse than Timelash?

A somewhat boring story, probably the second worse 6th Doctor story after Remembrance of the Daleks, but still watchable because of him. Then again, he's my favorite Doctor, so I'm obviously a bit biased toward his era.

 

[Mr Soak]

Remembrance was a 7th Doctor story. Do you mean Revelation?

 

[diankra]

What I remember most from Season 8, besides the moon being an egg, is the dead rising up from the ground as newly created Cybermen. Yeah, that wouldn't work. Dead bodies don't have the capacity of being reanimated, for the cellular functions are kaput.

That season is notorious for me in its egregious treatment of science.

The implication in that two-parter is that the minds are uploaded to Missy's Matrix knock-off at death (no idea how), so they can then be put back into the nano-built Cybermen.

 

[Mr Awe]

The implication in that two-parter is that the minds are uploaded to Missy's Matrix knock-off at death (no idea how), so they can then be put back into the nano-built Cybermen.

That seems a bit convoluted. Yes, I know, a hallmark of Who villians, and villians in general.

But, if they have the technology for nano-built Cybermen, why not just create them ready made with the proper programming rather than using the pattern from a person? Clearly they're not using the brain patterns because they want the Cybermen to have their own unique personalities!