Enterprise... suffered from tied hands?

[Penguin]

Commodore64. I believe in Broken bow there is a scene where the Teenaged ARcher is shown playing iwth a model He looked about 16 or 17. Next scene said 30 yeras later. that would make Archer 46 ir 47 at the start of the series. By the 4th year he would be in his 50's

Bakkula was 48 at the beginning of the series and was 51 at the end of the 4th season.


Trip was not the comedy. He was comic relief in the first season but that was dropped as the second season moved on by the third season he was not a comic or comic relief.

I was not advocating a TRIP series. What I was saying that there was too much Archer and not enough of the other characters I believed that an Ensemble series woud have been better for the series overall.

AS far aas Trip being main character material I have thought for a long time he would have made a much better captain than Archer.

But that is just an opinon and should be taken as that nothing more.

You have yours and I have mine and wee are both have a right to them. NO offense meant I hope none taken

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

In the screenplay for "Broken Bow", the Young Archer of the flashback is described as "nine years old."

The story flashes forward "30 Years Later" to Broken Bow, Oklahoma. That would make the adult Archer 39.

In the first Archer/Trip scene in the orbital inspection pod, Archer is described as "early 40's." Perhaps the script was changed after Bakula was cast? Just a guess. Trip is "early 30's."

 

[commodore64]

Edit: Looks like HR covered ages.

Penguin, I have no problems with your opinions about Trip or Archer. I just disagree with them strongly as I suspect you do mine about Trip and Archer. It's all good. I think disagreement is great, as long as it's respectful. And so far, I think we're good.

 

[DanCPA]

Yes, their hands were tied

To get a new series, they would have had to clean house behind the scenes... and instead they kept the same people... The same people who had been there for 2 decades.

Also, UPN kept trying to form Enterprise into their flagship show... so they kept modifying the series

 

[Mossura]

Having a Klingon shown on earth in the first five minutes of the first episode being chased by a farmer set the tone for the series.

 

[Anna Yolei]

Also, they went straight from DS9 to VOY to ENT without a break.

Somerthing that (from my observations on this board) hurt the series a lot....particularly those who weren't too happy with the way Voyager's last few seasons wrapped up and didn't want to stick it out another seven years for more of the same. I can't say I blame them much.

 

[DanCPA]

..didn't want to stick it out another seven years for more of the same

That's what hurt them
Not that it came on right after... Heck, we had DS9 run at the same time as Voyager and Next Generation

It was that it was pretty much the same stories as the final year of Next Generation and 7 years of Voyager...
We needed change,and we got the same thing with different people.

 

[commodore64]

Also, they went straight from DS9 to VOY to ENT without a break.

Somerthing that (from my observations on this board) hurt the series a lot....particularly those who weren't too happy with the way Voyager's last few seasons wrapped up and didn't want to stick it out another seven years for more of the same. I can't say I blame them much.

I just didn't like Voyager much; I didn't bother to see the last seasons. I hung in there for three seasons, but I think the main issue for me with Voyager is they strayed in the first episode from their objective: put a bunch of people who can't get along together on a ship without supplies. In the first episode, the two crews managed to get along and show they could get infinite supplies. Wouldn't it have been cool to show people with tattered uniforms, low on food and water and who had conflict while trying to exist?

I think my point is the show has a certain formula that got created in Voyager and it didn't work. The process didn't work either -- in a creative show, you have to have directors, writers and actors talking. These both got carried over for ENT.