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Denial really isn't just a river in Egypt.
Denial really isn't just a river in Egypt.
Enterprise question
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Plausible deniability... when logic CAN'T work, just deny everything.^
The U.S. government has been doing it for decades.
Picard's conference room display may have been intended to only have federation starships, but the artist was the descendent of the carrier's captain so he stuck it in. This sort of thing happens all the time in reality.
We know that Enterprise's can get left out because there's no shuttle in Picard's display.
We know that Enterprise's can get left out because there's no shuttle in Picard's display.
To be exact, the original E-D display has five starships (of which one is identifiably Galaxy class, one is TOS-style Constitution, one is TMP-style Constitution, one is basic Excelsior and one is unidentifiable) and one aircraft carrier (looking like the real-world CVN-65, and unlike the CVN-65 we saw in ST4:TVH).
We don't know what sort of a theme these ships follow. We know they can't be all named Enterprise, because there is no starship by that name that would look like a standard Excelsior, nor is there a starship that would look like the mystery vessel, because we know the looks of all the Enterprises and that one is not among them.
It's possible that none of the ships on that display are named Enterprise. Perhaps they are all named Constitution? There's no reason to insist that the aircraft carrier on the display would be CVN-65, because it's only in our universe that this vessel was a unique, one-off type. In the Trek universe, half a dozen ships of that design might have been built, as was originally planned in our universe as well.
Certainly this collection of just six vessels cannot be all-inclusive, because at least three, arguably six other sea or space vessels named Enterprise have been seen, mentioned or otherwise depicted in the show. In fact, none of the collections seen so far seems to include even a complete selection of spacecraft by that name, let alone vessels in general.
Timo Saloniemi
We don't know what sort of a theme these ships follow. We know they can't be all named Enterprise, because there is no starship by that name that would look like a standard Excelsior, nor is there a starship that would look like the mystery vessel, because we know the looks of all the Enterprises and that one is not among them.
It's possible that none of the ships on that display are named Enterprise. Perhaps they are all named Constitution? There's no reason to insist that the aircraft carrier on the display would be CVN-65, because it's only in our universe that this vessel was a unique, one-off type. In the Trek universe, half a dozen ships of that design might have been built, as was originally planned in our universe as well.
Certainly this collection of just six vessels cannot be all-inclusive, because at least three, arguably six other sea or space vessels named Enterprise have been seen, mentioned or otherwise depicted in the show. In fact, none of the collections seen so far seems to include even a complete selection of spacecraft by that name, let alone vessels in general.
Timo Saloniemi
3D Master
Rear Admiral
Picard's display is only the Starship's Enterprise. TMP wall, was ALL the vessels Enterprise that had some sort of direct lineage to the Enterprise. There was no NX-01.
Bullshit. On the TMP display, there were four vessels of various sorts. That's not all the Enterprises that had existed by that time (be it the 2270s or the 1970s). That's not even all the "famous" Enterprises that had existed by that time, because the one by far the most familiar to the audiences from the real world is missing. There is no nuclear carrier in TMP...
As for Picard's display, it may have been intended for starships Enterprise (even though in retrospect it fails in that task, because E-B and E-C ended up looking quite different). But as said, it's definitely neither inclusive nor exclusive, since there's the carrier there in addition to the five starships.
Timo Saloniemi
As for Picard's display, it may have been intended for starships Enterprise (even though in retrospect it fails in that task, because E-B and E-C ended up looking quite different). But as said, it's definitely neither inclusive nor exclusive, since there's the carrier there in addition to the five starships.
Timo Saloniemi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Enterprise
you'd need a fuckin big wall to get alla them on...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Enterprise
you'd need a fuckin big wall to get alla them on...
I think perhaps you're misremembering Decker's line as "Those are all the ships called Enterprise." Instead of "All those ships were called Enterprise."
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