Enterprise Marathon on Sci-Fi
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JiNX-01 said:
It wasn't ENT-1701... It's the Defiant... the ship that vanished in "The Tholian Web" which makes it so cool because it explains where the The Defiant went.
Even if it is the third such explanation.
The prior two being somewhat less official, obviously....
http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook5202.htm
http://www.hiddenfrontier.org/episodes/s3.php (3x08)
MattJC said:
That'd be great if this Enterprise marathon beat the snot out of BSG "Razor" in the ratings.
Well, they did choose the best ENT episodes for this thing. If the entire series had been of the quality of these marathon episodes, the show would almost certainly have lasted longer than it did.
some of the episodes (not all ) improve with multiple watchings.
the klingon virus one for instance.
i still think toward the end with archer going down alone was silly but there is some really good stuff between phlox and the klingon healer and archer and malcolm over the section 31 mess.
the klingon virus one for instance.
i still think toward the end with archer going down alone was silly but there is some really good stuff between phlox and the klingon healer and archer and malcolm over the section 31 mess.
I watched about six or sevcen hours--maybe more--of the marathon and found myself enjoying it, somewaht. After watching the Vulcan arc, though, I was amazed at how no one seems to know how to play Vulcan anymore. It made me appreciate Nimoy, Lenard and Russ.
I watched from somewhere in the middle of the Vulcan arc to the end of the Mirror Universe episodes. Thoroughly enjoyed it. 
I subjected my Trek hatin' but fantasy lovin' niece to a good chunk of IAMD. I kept telling her T'Pol was "a elf [sic]" and the Gorn was dragon. She's 18 and a sophomore in college. She wasn't buying it.
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
In a Mirror, Darkly never gets old.
"Bridge is yoourrs, captain!"
"Aren't all Tellerites guilty of something?"
Soval screaming just before his ship goes kerblooie!
"Bridge is yoourrs, captain!"
"Aren't all Tellerites guilty of something?"
Soval screaming just before his ship goes kerblooie!
i think watching it removed from the really good andorian arc helps.
and back then it was like they only had a few episodes left and this took up two of them.
but taken in context of watching them as they are they just seem to have improved.
you get more of feel of just how young naive and wanting to do something special malcolm had been when he got caught up in section 31 web.
the klingon healer comes across as more interesting and nuanced character.
I'm pretty much an ENT hater and, while the marathon didn't turn me into a fan, I did enjoy all those things I originally liked about it a bit more than before, esp. with the Manny Cotto episodes. See, to me, Trek is so overmined that all we really have room for is fanwank. Some of those Cotto eps were excellent fanwank. I liked them.
I see your point:
Season 4 had:
- The Augments
- Return to Vulcan
- The creator of the Transporter
- The return of the Organians
- The Birth of the Feder... Coalition of Planets
- The Romulan Arc
- The first visit to Andoria
- The explanation of the TOS Klingons vs TNG Klingons
- Return of the Orion Slave Women
- A return to the Mirror Universe
- Revisiting TNG
The only thing that was new was pretty much Terra Prime...
I thought the prequal premise was a good one, but destined for trouble. If you present the prequal as it's own set of adventures that don't connect to TOS, then the faction of fans who wanted to "see how it all began", are squawking that its not a real prequal.
If you do present "the way it all began", then another faction calls THAT "fanwank". You can...not...win.
I think it's more than just the prequel problem. As Kegek and I discuss here , it's endemic to any SF universe that has gone on too long. I daresay, it's the same reason Dune was showing signs of fatigue before Frank Herbert died and why the new novels hold no interest for so many of us. As much as I love Star Trek, I can't help but feel it is exhausted. That's cool, though, there's a lot more SF out there.
DumbDumb2007
Commander
I watched a few episodes of Enterprise on Friday. The show wasn't half bad.I havent watched it since it was first on. If the 4th season eps would have been the 2nd season episodes and the Xindi Aarc was a lot shorter and if the show had been cast much differently and the writers had given the ship shields by the end of a shortened Xindi Arc then the show would have been a ratings hit and it would still be on. If never cancelled it would be 1/3 of the way through it's 7th season.
The show shoukld have been given a 5th and Final Season. with a number of direct to dvd films produced before it's cancellation. Those stories could have been set before the events of ..These are the Voyages..."
The show shoukld have been given a 5th and Final Season. with a number of direct to dvd films produced before it's cancellation. Those stories could have been set before the events of ..These are the Voyages..."
Well, of course if you're tired of Star Trek, then thats you -- I'm not. I'm always ready for good stories presented in creative and interesting ways. I thought ENT got started late in this area, not till season 3, but once it did, I thought it ws great. Season 4 was different from 3, but because of Manny Coto, took the show to new heights.
No disrespect to Kegek, but I'll pass on reading his posts on the iissue, especially if its just about him being tired of Trek too.
Nope, it's a bit more than that but hey, if you don't see the franckhise fatigue, I'm not going to press the issue.
I'm not tired of Star Trek. Honestly, if I was, I wouldn't be here. I got really cheesed off with the whole thing somewhere in the nadir of ENT's abysmal second season ("Stigma", to be precise). So I shut myself off to the whole thing for, oh, the better part of half a decade, and then it slowly crept back to me how much I loved a lot about this franchise. And now I'm back.
I am tired of bland and unimaginative sci-fi TV, which is something that the Star Trek franchise became in its declining years. Season 4 was good fan service, but it was fan service. (That's a politer term than 'fanwank', means essentially the same thing - only I think it's applied to sexual situations more often. Damned if I know why.)
I mean, take the "Affliction"/"Divergence" arc. It's a two parter to offer an explanation in a discrepancy in Klingon makeup. Honestly, the only kind of people who care about this are Star Trek fans - and I was quite content with the amused ribbing on the topic in "Trials and Tribble-ations".
But hey, I liked seeing Brent Spiner again, and ENT gave him a better send-off from the franchise than Nemesis did.
I am tired of bland and unimaginative sci-fi TV, which is something that the Star Trek franchise became in its declining years. Season 4 was good fan service, but it was fan service. (That's a politer term than 'fanwank', means essentially the same thing - only I think it's applied to sexual situations more often. Damned if I know why.)
I mean, take the "Affliction"/"Divergence" arc. It's a two parter to offer an explanation in a discrepancy in Klingon makeup. Honestly, the only kind of people who care about this are Star Trek fans - and I was quite content with the amused ribbing on the topic in "Trials and Tribble-ations".
But hey, I liked seeing Brent Spiner again, and ENT gave him a better send-off from the franchise than Nemesis did.
