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ENTERPRISE design in the new film? (How many changes?)

Tristan said:
The Stig said:
But how many Trek fans really care about the design of the Enterprise remaining faithful to the original?

Certainly not me. The original ship only looks aesthetically pleasing from a couple of angles, IMO.

How can a fellow Bowie loving sushi eater be so misguided? ;)

Seriuosly, though: I think the orignal looks better from more angles than any other Fed ship save the refit. And even there, I'd say they went overboard, in retrospect, in trying to sex the old girl up.

However, you bring up a good point: for every fan who wants to see the design left alone, there's at least another one who wants to see it altered. After all the variations we've seen thus far--canonical and not--I can't fathom why but there you have it.
 
I think it remains plausibly futuristic, with many features that have -- quite remarkably -- kept up with scientific speculation about what an FTL spaceship might look like. I find it amazing that in trying to avoid the stereotypical science fiction shapes of the day, and the current thinking of what the near future might hold, Jefferies came up with something new and fresh and scientifically plausible.

It is only harmed in any way because it has become iconic and thus is no longer "new and fresh". But if it is used in the same context, then its iconic status only helps convey the point that this is Star Trek. Its plausibility remains in either case -- it is as believable as a FTL spacecraft as any in popular SF, and much more so than most of the modern Trek designs.

Remember (and I say this for everyone else Dennis, since I know you are well aware of this truth) uber-detailing and sweeping lines do not a plausible design make. Maybe visually interesting to eyes that crave detail, but no more plausible than a Death Star.
 
Starship Polaris said:
Because it was futuristic in 1966, not 2007. :)
Exactly. I remember walking around the State Fair of Texas in 1977 and laughing at how hopelessly hokey the "Futurama" exhibit looked... and at the time it was only twelve years old!

I would daresay that there are very few Trekkies who love the classic Enterprise more than me, but I will not shed any tears if (no, not if... when) we don't see a carbon copy of Matt Jefferies' original design on the silver screen next Christmas. As long as she's a beautiful, sleek and powerful presence (and as long as the movie doesn't suck), I'll be happy.

:thumbsup:
 
Starship Polaris said:
Because it was futuristic in 1966, not 2007. :)

A metal hull and superstructure is a metal hull and superstructure. When it comes down to beauty, though, which is all that counts, it looks fine.
 
It looks like a spaceship (the product of a space program like NASA or UESPA) rather than space art (the product of Paramount's art department), which makes it more futuristic and realistic than any of its progeny (including the refit, which I adore), which all look as stylized and insta-dated as Flash Gordon's rocket or the Nautilus.

Again, nothing new can thrill us. But the oriiginal? By gum, that's got some novelty value! (The fact that it's the best of the lot doesn't hurt any).
 
Well, we will know for sure in about 12 months or so (I'm guessing some pictures of the new/old Enterprise will be leaking out by October 2008).
 
I should clarify: it looks like a spaceship even though its design makes little sense according to astrodynamics as we understand it today.
 
SeamusShameless said:
I think the design'll be pretty damn close to the original.
I'm more willing to bet that the configuration will be the same (a saucer and three cylindrical shapes) but the details will be very, very different.
 
Yeah... I think I'll end up waiting until the second weekend anyway.

I hate crowds but will have to endure them for this one. I have been at the opening day of every Trek film since TMP -- except for III, which I saw the night before the opening because a friend of mine was a local movie reviewer.

My biggest challenge now is explaining to my wife why I'm going to cut out of the middle of Christmas dinner.... :confused:
 
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