^uhh.. he said "since TOS"... I don't understand, do you have a reading-comprehension problem? a lot of your answers are a bit disjointed/strange.
Enough of this 'nuJJ' stuff . . .
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^uhh.. he said "since TOS"... I don't understand, do you have a reading-comprehension problem? a lot of your answers are a bit disjointed/strange.
1. Why completely change Spock's character?
I didn't see Spock becoming a Bolian, did you?
2. Why change the original starship Enterprise when its such a classic?
It's the same enterprise, just with more attention to detail and beauty.
3. What the hell were they thinking with the Engine Room?
Yes, they should have only used plywood. Because we all know engine rooms are made out of the stuff.
4. Why destroy Vulcan?
Ask Nero. Well, that, and to make an emotional impact. And that it did.
5. JJ didn't want to make a 'Galaxy Quest' but the film is full of stupid humor.
The humor is a lot better then in earlier movies, especially the TOS ones.
6. Why does Scotty needy a cuddly friend?
Perhaps he doesn't need it. Does it negatively affect him? Don't think so.
7. Why is Sulu such a dork who can't pilot a ship?
Because he's just a cadet, duh.
8. If the crew are starfleet cadets, where is Gary Mitchell?
Gary who? If the character wasn't in the movie, he clearly wasn't important enough. They've crammed enough in it as it is.
9. Why change the musical score?
Did it change during production? Oh, you mean the horrible TOS musical score? The elevator music? Oh, my... I don't think anybody listens to that anymore. Perhaps you should update your music library. Do you become sad, when you know you're getting very old?
10. Why change stardates?
Because it's the logical thing to do; now we can actually make sense out of them.
11. Why is Sick Bay now Medical Bay?
Because Sick Bay is a negatively charged word. Medical Bay is more positive. And every little bit helps when patients need to physically and mentally recover from their ordeals. A very logical choice, that name.
12. Why the hell is Kirk driving stick shift cars and motorcycles?
What did you want him to do? Push a pink doll wagon? Ride a 200 year old bycicle? Come on; he does what every man his age does. Or didn't you have a childhood? Poor you.
13. Why does everyone talk as if their 13 years old?
Your friends/family don't have a 13 year old, do they? Otherwise, you'd known that this is definitely not how kids of that age talk.
14. Most importantly, why such a bad script!
Because if it had been worse, it might have been just as bad as any Star Trek movie before.
I think he's complaining about Kirk in A Piece of the Action not being able to drive a stick shift.
True Trek Fan: TOS itself had plenty of plot holes and continuity lapses. plus, this is an alternate timeline. maybe Kirk's stepfather taught him how to drive manuals?
True Trek Fan: TOS itself had plenty of plot holes and continuity lapses. plus, this is an alternate timeline. maybe Kirk's stepfather taught him how to drive manuals?
Because he's just as much a human as he is a Vulcan. What's the point in making someone half-human if you completely ignore that part of his heritage?
Because the original Enterprise would have been laughed off of the screen.
Well, it looked like a brewery. Maybe they were all just really drunk that day.
Because it's an exceptionally dramatic moment that will have repercussions for the entire universe, not to mention it's great for Spock's development.
Eh, it's a modern blockbuster, you have to expect that. But most of the humor was pretty spot-on.
You thought Keenser was cuddly?
He'd just eaten at White Castle, so he was a little loopy.
Kirk went to the Academy at a later date. Mitchell might have already graduated by the time Kirk had enlisted.
Que?
Because the original stardate system was silly and needlessly cumbersome.
Because you can use more than one term to describe things?
Why not? Hovercars would only be practical for longer trips. Vehicles with wheels would still have a place in any sensible world.
Another modern-day blockbuster thing. Ignore it and move on.
I thought the script, for the most part, was good, but it was flawed. Part of the problem was that the movie was filmed in the middle of the writers' strike, so the crew had to stick to the script as it was, they couldn't ad-lib or change things if they found something didn't work, or if they thought of a better idea.
I agree this is more star trek then any other , and i mean it by the way the charactors look and react to things ,makes me feel i'm like watching TOS. TO me its back to basic's good old trek ,you have to look at the bigger picture and that is star trek is back with a bang .So j.j changed the look of the ship , what director would not want to update things alittle, so they changed the timeline ,but at the core of this film is star trek and a better future where we can work and live in harmony.Thats just my viewThe following is, of course, my own opinion and I hardly expect anyone to change the way they reference Star Trek or anything related as a result of this rant but I'm gonna put it out there anyway
I'm sick of 'JJ-this' 'nu-that'
it's 'Star Trek' not JJ-Trek or nuTrek or the JJprise or nuEnterprise
Star Trek is Star Trek and the Enterprise is the Enterprise
in my opinion, all the appellations meant to differentiate the 11th film from the rest for clarity of discussion are convenient but they are at the same time quite annoying
to me, calling it JJ Trek or nuTrek or whatever pushes it down a notch like it's not good enough to be called Star Trek
Star Trek is alive and is closer to The Original Series than anything since The Original Series, so I feel that calling it anything other than Star Trek (or Star Trek XI or STXI for clarity) lessens the spirit of it . . .
this is obviously the wrong analogy to use but it's like the Disciples calling Jesus after the Resurrection 'nuJesus'
like I said . . . horrible analogy, but I hope my point was successfully communicated
rant over
I have to agree with this. ZeTrek lives!
This one probably actually talks like a thirteen year old... maybe even like a twelve year old! The blasphemy!!!!
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Ah, I think you can agree with me that NuTrek does stem from the mindset of the viewer though, right? For instance, in my mind, the newest BSG is BSG, not NuBSG or anything like that, because the only BSG I've seen is the re-imagined series. That's why I feel like those who were introduced with the current movie consider the movie to be Star Trek without any sort of prefix or suffix designating it, but those who've seen the original series need something to differentiate.
In fairness, it's possible that the Nu- prefix started out deragatory, but I don't think it's carried on as such.
Also, I agree with you that in the future we will see more people referring to old Trek as Trek Prime as the current reboot continues to prosper and fans of the TOS begin to become marginalized by the new fans.
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Really?
Except that Kirk was never a womanizing, let alone egotistical guy, and I've never seen him acrid.
Except of course for that annoying fact that Spock didn't undergo Kholinar until just before TMP long AFTER he spent a few decades in Starfleet. But hey, I'm sure you're paying attention.
Except that Dr. McCoy was never a smart-aleck doctor, he was a highly ethical doctor that was not afraid to speak his mind.
Are you certain you were paying attention? Because all I saw was a villain trying to blow up planets. If he wanted to change destiny, he'd have gone to Romulus and start preparing them to deal with the Hobus star going super nova.
Except that there was nothig to get revenge over, and it seemed no one in the crew noticed this little tidbit, making the whole lot of them maniacal serial killers that only needed an excuse to set themselves off.
No, actually it didn't. The only space battle that might have been bad ass was a fleet against the Narada and it was off screen because of plot-hole ridding idiocy.
There was no chief engineer before Scotty. He just suddenly was the Chief engineer for no apparent reason.
There was no chief engineer before Scotty. He just suddenly was the Chief engineer for no apparent reason.
Um Olsen you know the flashfried Redshirt, remember him.
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There was no chief engineer before Scotty. He just suddenly was the Chief engineer for no apparent reason.
Um Olsen you know the flashfried Redshirt, remember him.
He was AN engineer, not the chief engineer.
There was no chief engineer before Scotty. He just suddenly was the Chief engineer for no apparent reason.
Um Olsen you know the flashfried Redshirt, remember him.
He was AN engineer, not the chief engineer.
No, he's listed as the Chief Engineer.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Olson
*koff, koff* Wait, what? *looks around suspiciously*
Well, now you've named a reason why "nu" should be taken as a compliment! I mean, TOS BSG vs new BSG - come on?!
I dislike the prefix "nu" because it reminds me of things like nuMetal or nuGoth.
Ermm... Kirk never a womanizing guy? Really?!
Never egotistical...never acrid? Not even in TMP or UC? Whatever. This is an opinion, not a fact. You might think that Shatner's Kirk was Flawless Hero and God's gift to mankind without an ego and without a womanizing bone in his body. Let's just say many people might disagree with you there. I don't see how Pine's Kirk was particularly egotistical, or more so than Shatner's Kirk?
That's not even a difference in opinion, it's a difference in terminology.
You might think that "smart aleck" is too severe to apply to things like, constantly using racial epithets when addressing friends/crewmembers, critizing their personality and behaviour, or occasionally accusing them of nefarious motives (e.g. The Tholian Web), and that "not being afraid to speak his mind" is a better description, but that, again, is just your opinion. (Although I don't know why he should have been afraid to speak his mind, since Spock was always only going to answer with a sarcastic retort rather than with a blow, as many humans would, and apparently TOS-era Starfleet was not big on suing for discrimination.)And I didn't know that being ethical and being a smart-aleck is mutually exclusive?
Again, opinions, not facts.
I don't know, had I been chased by a cop until I drove a car into a quarry pit, I'm not sure I would have popped off with "Is there a problem, Officer?" I think he talks more like a smart-alecky 20 year old.
Have you seen early S1 lately? Kirk's behavior towards women really is embarrassing. And one could argue with the description of Kirk as "womanizing" in the new movie - we only see him with two women. He tries to pick up Uhura in a bar, and we later see him with Gaila. Outside of a couple of comments in passing, that's it.
I know it's not like they had two entire scenes of expositional dialogue dedicated to explaining this, but Nero blamed the Federation in general, and Spock in particular, for the destruction of Romulus. That's what he was trying to get revenge over.
Not sure how "badass" that would have been, it would consist mainly of Starfleet ships getting pasted while causing negligible damage to the enemy.
Um, yes there was. His name was Olsen. He was part of the away team with Kirk and Sulu. He had the charges. Kirk told him several times, by name, to open his chute. He died dramatically. You mentioned him in particular in your "review" in the other thread. How could you miss him?
