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Enemies Faceoff (Season 2)

Akiraprise

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Moving on to Season 2. Vote for who you think caused Voyager the most grief in season 2.
Since Seska is already going to be in the final poll, due to having the most votes in the first season poll, she is not included in this one.

You may choose two enemies.
 
Susperia
Culluh

Yes she was




By the way, are you taking the one who has the most votes in each season and then doing a 7-character showdown? Or are you taking the top 2 (because we are voting for 2)?
 
The Bothans were quite evil - "We attack just because we can." Fear the Clown was pretty evil, too.

But Seska was the best of them all.
 
I thopught about Cullah, but went for Jonas & Mabus, as Jonas significantly weakend VOYs position, leading Seska & Cullah to exploit the situation. I also went for mabus, as he further eexacerbated the situation between VOY & the Nistrom/Kazon in general...
 
EMHMark613 said:




By the way, are you taking the one who has the most votes in each season and then doing a 7-character showdown? Or are you taking the top 2 (because we are voting for 2)?
I'm going to do a 7 character showdown at the end.
It's kind of hard to choose just one baddie, so that is why I said you can pick two. Only one is moving on though.




I voted for:
The Bothan - They attack just because they can. Plus it was a pretty vicious mental attack.
Suspiria - She was just a bitch from the get go. Very violent, dark personality.
 
Most of these choices are not evil in the slightest, and all those Kazon, well, yeah it’s like trying to decide who is the 15th worst Nazi was after Adolf? But a vote for Culluh, with the exception of when he belted Janeway in the face and she sailed 10 feet across Voyagers bridge, is a defacto vote for Seska. Although as antagonists, some of these fellows were damn interesting, but evil? Pishaw!

Briori Race (The 37s) We never saw these guys. Their human slaves threw them off world hundreds of years earlier.

Kar - Kazon youth (Initiations) This was a cross between Enemy Mine and that Movie where Meryl Streep teaches ghetto kids how to play violin. Given the opportunity to pretend to kill Chakotay, like Spock did to Kirk in Amok Time or how Bev revived Yar after she lost a battle to the death with those Space Nubians(I honestly don’t know how to describe that lot with out coming off as an imperialist cracker.)… Kar shot his own king rather than scuff a hair on Chakotay's brave Indians scalp because he had so quickly grown into a father figure more nurturing than the man who thought he raised this troubled boy.

Reg Barclay (Projections) or, his other name is the Doctor. Bipolar ramblings manifest probably as real as later when he tries to kill Kes’ boyfriend, but reg is a symptom not the disease.

The Inheritors (Tattoo) The Gods Chakotay’s people have worshiped for generations? Chakotay worships evil gods?

Tanis and Suspiria - (Cold Fire) He’s teaching Kes how to gain pleasure and sustenance from the combustion of biomatter(Think about what their homeworld looks like) probably to get laid as much as to double her life span and get her off ship before the goddess he worships destroys Voyager… Meanwhile demented senile woman gets ratty when she finds the corpse of her lover in the hands of monkeys, and even though she’s blaming them for the murder of Banjo Man, you can bet the Doctor preformed an autopsy and a few experiments on the remains. Yeah, a simple misunderstanding. Although now that I think about it, Susperia is a little like “Admiral Janeway” getting pissy at history for not living up to her needs.

Automated Personnel Unit 3947 - Pralor Robot (Prototype) The gelding wanted genitals before it’s race died out and B’Elanna wouldn’t give him any… Which is a generous amount of foreshadowing for Tom. They were just a little desperate being on the brink of extinction and all, but evil? Misguided idiots.

Michael Jonas - VOY crew traitor (Threshold, etc) Jonas never made sense to me unless he was getting some from Seska before she left, because really, did he believe that Seska was really going to get them home faster or that he would be receiving a good job/rank/status among the kazon once they took Voyager which was always inevitable and he was a fool to not be part of the final solution? He followed his heart or his grottes, but that guy was misguided, and who hasn’t tried to kill Neelix now and then?

Lon Suder - Betazoid Killer (Meld) After he stopped being mentally ill, he saved the ship. Killing 8 Kazon in 6 six seconds (I counted and cheered! ...Season 3. Oops.) despite himself. Overcoming his personal misgiving for the good of the ship is a massive display of self-sacrifice. Frankly, considering Janeway’s leadership had thrown the crew into suffering a perpetual camping trip and war with the natives, it’s a damn shame there is a Lon Suder day celebrated by the Crew ever year. A total hero. :)

Dreadnought - Cardassian Missile (Dreadnought) You might as well ask us if we’re evil or breathing. Blowing up on top of people is this things purpose for existence. The true villain of this piece was B’Elanna for firing it at people in the first place.

Q (Deathwish) This guy isn’t even nearly… Evil? Being suicidal is evil?

Drayan Race (Innocence) Tuvok interrupted their death rituals… Well, I suppose it was like in the Twilight Zone Movie without the happy ending, but there was no villainy here. Have you ever been given a hairy eyeball for crashing a funeral? At least he didn’t pulverize the Prime Directive like Kim did when he went through about the same thing in the next Emanation.

'Fear' - The Clown (The Thaw) I’m noticing a theme, lonely entity can’t cope with a change to the nature of it’s existence… Which is the same as the Doctor in projections, The Dryan elders being afraid of death, Automated Personnel Unit 3947 afraid of being sterile as much as losing the war for it’s dead masters his people killed, Susperia finding out her boyfriend is dead and that she is alone, Kar running from his rights of manhood challenge… The Clown was a tenth as evil and scary as holoJaneway in the final scene. So, with all the killing he might qualify for being evil, but really he’s just desperate and pathetic wretch capable of doing anything to stay loved.
 
My bad. I guess I needed to put the disclaimer in this thread like the last one.

I know that some of these characters aren't "bad guys" per se, but they were the primary antagonists in the episodes that featured them. That's why they're on the poll.
 
We've got a tie going right now. If you haven't voted yet please do so.

I thought Suspiria would win this round. She was an evil, evil wench.
 
She wanted nothing less then the complete destruction of Voyager. Plus she was torturing the crew. Stringing Belanna and Tuvok up against the ceiling like cattle. Then she tried doing the same thing with Janeway, telekinetically strangling her by the throat. She would have succeeded too if it wasn't for Kes. (Some people are probably thinking of the old Scooby Doo cartoons where the villain says "I'd have succeeded too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!) Put Janeway out of her misery. :lol:

I wish we would have seen more of Suspiria as Voyager went along.
 
Yeah, but the reason she was doing all that was because she was senile and in command of bad information... Just like how Bush attacked Iraq. Voyager had the Caretaker in a Meatlocker, she assumed it was a trophy and attacked them just like any member of the Voyager crew would get pissy after finding someone carrying the corpse of their spouse around their shoulders like a shawl.

Crazy people ain't evil, just crazy. Crazy and entertaining.
 
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