Embarrassed by Voyager?

[TariAdama]

Even though her suit left nothing the imagination, they were functional.... I'm just glad that they got rid of the silver one... that was terrible on her.

 

[KimMH]

I confess I have struggled with the catsuit issue on all the series not because I don't appreciate that the actors wearing them aren't beautiful shapely people but because it does single them out. While all (7, T'Pol, Kira, Troi) more than proved thier worth to thier respective crews it did seem to be an obstacle for some viewers to take them seriously at first. My husband admitted he had difficulty NOT looking only at 7's breasts the first few epis she was on, but as she integrated into the crew and our idea of what Voy's crew was she became more a person than just BOOBS. (Nothin' wrong with boobs - we ALL got 'em) It is a stange paradox I guess. Pity too, as the characters they portray have all become what I consider to be friends of mine!

 

[kimc]

So, next time you feel embarrassed about 7 just remember what she's been through and stop thinking about yourself.

Eh, the scantily clad sexy female has been a part of sci-fi for so long that there's little point in being a prude just because Trek did it too. In fact that was hardly the first time Trek did it.

Okay guys, let's keep it about the posts and not about the posters. Thanks.

 

[freak]

I did like Seven's character on the show as well..but thought that she was way overused in the series. I remember I had a friend of mine who's sister was flipping channels(they are really religious) one day and had happened to come across Seven of Nine on Voyager. I remember her telling me that her sister's first thought was: "oh MY GOODNESS!!!". I think she was embarrassed by Seven's catsuit.

 

[exodus]

You know, I've never understood the anti-catsuit thing around here with the argument that it was 'too distracting' or 'too sexy'. There has always been at least one sexpot on Trek. In TOS it was Uhura followed by Nurse Chapel. In TNG it was Troi followed by Beverly. In DS9, it was Kira followed by Dax. In Voyager it was Kes then Seven followed by Torres. (Alas, even I realize Janeway is toward the bottom of the lineup. *sigh* ) In Ent, it was T'Pol followed by Hoshi.

There's nothing really off on Seven's attire other than the fact that her chest was more pronounced than Kes's was. (No offense to those of you who loved Kes.)

Were you distracted by Troi's catsuit? How about the miniskirt, almost-a-shirt uniform Uhura wore? Were your attentions taken from the storyline when Kira walked through in her catsuit like uniform? *shakes head* That issue just never made any sense to me.

At the very least, there is a logical reason why Seven's suit looks like it does, which is more than I can say for the rest of the ladies. There's no reason for a uniform to be sexy... thinking Uhura and Kira here.

Sorry, this just perplexes me.

Preach it, girl!!!!

I found many of the women's dress styles in Trek sensual without being sexual. The human body is one of the most artistic forms on Earth. Artists form Michelangelo to Divinci saw it that way. IMPO I think it's sad that in modern times we lost the ability to view each other bodies in that capacity.

 

[IlogicalOne]

Everyone,
If my post offended any here I offer my apologizes as I am a fan of the series I meant no harm with my post. I don't think it was so much an embarrassment for me to watch Voyager as much as it sometimes felt more like a guilty pleasure.
Not meaning for that to sound sexiest or vulgar by any means but being a man, it is hard not to notice an attractive woman wearing a very skin tight cat suit especially when one has a figure like Jeri Ryan does. Again, I do not mean to sound disrespectful to the women here. I loved the character and how she grew in the show and made it more interesting. I believe her role made some of the best episodes of the series. I see now that the problem I had was with me, not the series itself. Any way thank you all for opening my eyes to things I had not thought of before.

Peace.

 

[IlogicalOne]

I did like Seven's character on the show as well..but thought that she was way overused in the series. I remember I had a friend of mine who's sister was flipping channels(they are really religious) one day and had happened to come across Seven of Nine on Voyager. I remember her telling me that her sister's first thought was: "oh MY GOODNESS!!!". I think she was embarrassed by Seven's catsuit.

My wife's dad is a strict Southern Baptist minister who is a very hard line fundamentalist. One day he came in while I was watching Voyager while Seven of Nine was on wearing her silver cat suit. I think I started to turn red
when he asked point blank what I was watching. yeah, yeah, I know, nothing to be embarrassed about but come on, you have to admit it was like getting caught watching the Playboy channel.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

So, next time you feel embarrassed about 7 just remember what she's been through and stop thinking about yourself.

Okay guys, let's keep it about the posts and not about the posters. Thanks.

It was a jest.

For some reason I like writing about 7 as though she were a real person. She is my favorite Trek character.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Everyone,
If my post offended any here I offer my apologizes as I am a fan of the series I meant no harm with my post. I don't think it was so much an embarrassment for me to watch Voyager as much as it sometimes felt more like a guilty pleasure.
Not meaning for that to sound sexiest or vulgar by any means but being a man, it is hard not to notice an attractive woman wearing a very skin tight cat suit especially when one has a figure like Jeri Ryan does. Again, I do not mean to sound disrespectful to the women here. I loved the character and how she grew in the show and made it more interesting. I believe her role made some of the best episodes of the series. I see now that the problem I had was with me, not the series itself. Any way thank you all for opening my eyes to things I had not thought of before.

Peace.

Ilogicalone I am glad you liked 7 so much and came to appreciate her as you did. I think she's a very interesting person and her story of trying to move forward from a life as Borg never fails to grip me.

Your response to the catsuit is, sadly, just what the producers wanted, ie a sexual response. Your embarrassment is an extra, a product of your personality. In order to defend 7 from being constantly denigrated as "just some T and A" I like to offer the uniform explanation, an in-universe explantion which I believe works well. As an addition to that remember that 7 was very naive and did not understand attraction, how to interact socially, romance.. and would have been quite oblivious to other's reactions to her good figure. I do question the idea (not put forward by you) that having a great figure means you shouldn't wear catsuits, but it's okay if your figure is just meh, but that's a question that takes place outside of VOY.

I also think if you look for in-universe explanations as to why it is okay in VOY to wear something that no one in their right mind would wear for WORK today it shows there may be sociological differences in the future that make it okay. Janeway is very protective of 7 but she does not once take her aside and suggest she wear something else.. so obviously the wearing of catsuits is not an issue in the future.

 

[Adm_Hawthorne]

Plus, no one is really angry.

 

[Fish1941]

It would be like me saying I didn't like the plotholes in Voyager and someone answering that other Star Trek series also have plotholes...
And that it's not an uncommon situation in sci-fi in general!

Why? Does that makes plotholes any less bad? No....

I wonder. Why do many TREK fans act as if Voyager was the only series with plotholes? I kept encountering them by the dozens on the other shows and in the Trek movies. Do fans tend to blind themselves to the plotholes found in the other Trek shows, because they had actors, instead of an actress in the starring role? If not, why do they blind themselves to the constant plotholes found in all Trek movies and television series?

 

[exodus]

It would be like me saying I didn't like the plotholes in Voyager and someone answering that other Star Trek series also have plotholes...
And that it's not an uncommon situation in sci-fi in general!

Why? Does that makes plotholes any less bad? No....

I wonder. Why do many TREK fans act as if Voyager was the only series with plotholes? I kept encountering them by the dozens on the other shows and in the Trek movies. Do fans tend to blind themselves to the plotholes found in the other Trek shows, because they had actors, instead of an actress in the starring role? If not, why do they blind themselves to the constant plotholes found in all Trek movies and television series?

Because it's cool to hate Voyager?

 

[kimc]

I wonder. Why do many TREK fans act as if Voyager was the only series with plotholes? I kept encountering them by the dozens on the other shows and in the Trek movies. Do fans tend to blind themselves to the plotholes found in the other Trek shows, because they had actors, instead of an actress in the starring role? If not, why do they blind themselves to the constant plotholes found in all Trek movies and television series?

It's a possibility. I've been wondering the same thing myself for years.