Elon Musk?

[zar]

The replicators and transporters, Star Trek’s (and humanity’s !) biggest inventions (along with the warp drive) and their inventors don’t get a name check...

But Elon "Zip2" Musk does...

Zip2? Talk about dating yourself...

If Elon "SpaceX" Musk continues to be successful in what he is already doing and plans to do, he could very well be more notable in the grand scheme of spaceflight than all previous shuttle developments, in kind of the same way Wright's flyer is noted over any of the old airships and gliders.

Lorca didn't mention replicators and transporters for the same reason he didn't mention the printing press, wireless communication, integrated circuits or any number of other groundbreaking inventions... because they had nothing to do with the conversation. He was talking about breakthroughs in flight.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

If Elon "SpaceX" Musk continues to be successful in what he is already doing and plans to do, he could very well be more notable in the grand scheme of spaceflight than all previous shuttle developments, in kind of the same way Wright's flyer is noted over any of the old airships and gliders.

Lorca didn't mention replicators and transporters for the same reason he didn't mention the printing press, wireless communication, integrated circuits or any number of other groundbreaking inventions... because they had nothing to do with the conversation. He was talking about breakthroughs in flight.

Again... Konstantin Tsiolkovsky; Hermann Oberth; Robert Goddard; Robert Esnault-Pelterie; Wernher von Braun; Sergei Korolev; Valentin Glushko; Chuck Yeager; Yuri Gagarin; Alexei Leonov; Alan Shepard; John Glenn; Neil Armstrong; Buzz Aldrin; etc...

 

[Charles Phipps]

Yes but could they potentially show up in a Holodeck?

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

I highly doubt we’ll be seeing many colorful holodeck adventures in DSC...

...And it didn’t stop Albert Einstein or Isaac Newton!

 

[zar]

Again... Konstantin Tsiolkovsky; Hermann Oberth; Robert Goddard; Robert Esnault-Pelterie; Wernher von Braun; Sergei Korolev; Valentin Glushko; Chuck Yeager; Yuri Gagarin; Alexei Leonov; Alan Shepard; John Glenn; Neil Armstrong; Buzz Aldrin; etc...

Half of the people you list don't belong on the list because they were only pilots/astronauts, not inventors. The other half, the average person would have to google. They don't need to google Wright. This was my point.

Again... Francesco Lana de Terzi, Jacques Charles, Henri Giffard, George Cayley, Alphonse Pénaud, Otto Lilienthal, Samuel Langley... you see? And yet Lorca, like most people, only mentions Wright. Because he was truly revolutionary as far as it relates to modern flight, just as SpaceX potentially would be for spaceflight. See RedDwarf's post if you don't understand.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

potentially would be

And there lies the folly.

 

[zar]

And there lies the folly.

Potential folly.

It was also folly of Enterprise to include a completed model of the ISS in its intro when in reality it was still being built.

Depending on how things turn out, this will either date the show OR do the opposite.

 

[Tesophius]

Again... Konstantin Tsiolkovsky; Hermann Oberth; Robert Goddard; Robert Esnault-Pelterie; Wernher von Braun; Sergei Korolev; Valentin Glushko; Chuck Yeager; Yuri Gagarin; Alexei Leonov; Alan Shepard; John Glenn; Neil Armstrong; Buzz Aldrin; etc...

Half of these are just astronauts. Robert Goddard though would probably stand out the most in a few centuries looking back onto "our" times. Maybe Korolev being a close second. But if ITS is successful and we start colonizing Mars in ten years and also achieve suborbital intraterran commercial flight, then Musk will surely be remembered as one of the greats.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Poor Richard Branson. 10 years ago that cringeworthy reference would have been his!

 

[Boomer359]

Musk is definitely on the same level as Cochrane. By that, I mean that Cochrane has been overblown. Just look at him from First Contact. He wasn't in it for any amount of "pushing the boundaries" or technological breakthrough. Cochrane was after a buck in a post-holocaust world. He was part of a tech team and probably wasn't even the brains behind the project. He was a monkey that could fly a rocket. All the warp pioneers died in the Borg attack.

Zephram Cochrane... bah, humbug!

And he "invented" something the Vulcans and countless other species already had.

 

[Tesophius]

And he "invented" something the Vulcans and countless other species already had.

It's like when Columbus discovered America, none of the natives had even suspected that they existed prior to being discovered.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Poor Richard Branson. 10 years ago that cringeworthy reference would have been his!

Branson would actually tie in rather nicely since Virgin Galactic is based out of the Mojave Air & Space Port, which you could say grew in importance over time to become the metropolis of Mojave Captain Pike was born in as seen in The Cage.



And though it unfortunately crashed, killing the co-pilot, Branson did also name his SpaceShipTwo the VSS Enterprise.

 

[dahj]

Poor Richard Branson

Said no one ever.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Said no one ever.

I was wondering if someone would pick up that little quip.

 

[Paul Weaver]

In universe we did see in Futures End that the trekverse of 1996 included the DY-100, launched from a legacy nasa/boeing style rocket.


Perhaps in the trekverse, Musk was behind the technology that did away with sleeper ships, which were

necessary because of the time involved in space travel until about the year 2018. It took years just to travel from one planet to another.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Exactly. In-universe who cares about Elon Musk’s SpaceX. They’re so much more advanced than our reality that by 2000 they’ve already retired and replaced the DY-100 class of ships! The DY-100s that are nuclear-powered interplanetary vessels equipped with artificial gravity*! Let SpaceX match that!

(Another one of Star Trek’s great inventions along with warp drive, transporters and replicators.)

 

[Tesophius]

The STD timeline has been adjusted to match reality through 2017.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

The STD timeline has been adjusted to match reality through 2017.

No Eugenics Wars then? No Khan? What is this? A reboot?

 

[Tesophius]

No Eugenics Wars then? No Khan? What is this? A reboot?

Eugenics Wars and Khan happened in the 2040s in this timeline. Of course it's a reboot.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Eugenics Wars and Khan happened in the 2040s in this timeline. Of course it's a reboot.

Oh, so its not set in the Prime universe then. My bad. Maybe in the next episode of this new/rebooted universe/timeline/reality/whatever they can reference the great inventor Tony Stark!