El-Aurians? Guinan's dad?

[Commander Keiran MacDuff]

This is my formal request that at some point an El-Aurian (specifically Guinan's father, who is referenced in Time's Arrow) makes some kind of appearance in Discovery.

Why?

No reason I guess. It would just be cool.

Carry on.

 

[Mudd]

Well, you've made your "formal request" to the right people. We'll see that this is filed immediately with the showrunners and CBS Legal.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Guinan could definitely appear. She was almost on Enterprise (she was going to be some United Earth government official).

 

[Commander Keiran MacDuff]

Well, you've made your "formal request" to the right people. We'll see that this is filed immediately with the showrunners and CBS Legal.

EXCELLENT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE SERVEAUX.

 

[The Wormhole]

Captain Garrovick or I'm walking.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Garrovick is supposed to be captain of the Farragut during DSC's timeframe.

 

[The Wormhole]

Exactly. He can guest star in an episode or something. It could even be easier to insert him into the series than Guinan's dad.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I admit I'd like to see the Farragut disaster "live". Perhaps the Discovery arrives to help the survivors?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

El-Aurians don't have last names as far as I know. How do we know it's Guinan's dad? "Hi, I'm Bob, Guinan's father"

 

[Philip Guyott]

Well, you've made your "formal request" to the right people. We'll see that this is filed immediately with the showrunners and CBS Legal.

I am sure that they follow Trekbbs.com closely

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

El-Aurians don't have last names as far as I know.

Yes, they do. There was one on DS9 named Martus Mazur.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Yes, they do. There was one on DS9 named Martus Mazur.

Ah, so we just never heard Guinan's then? But we still won't know who this guy is related to unless they name-drop.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

El-Aurians don't have last names as far as I know. How do we know it's Guinan's dad? "Hi, I'm Bob, Guinan's father"

They don't have to come right out and say it. He could complain about his free-spirited daughter or something, and you know who he means...

 

[The Wormhole]

Yes, they do. There was one on DS9 named Martus Mazur.

And Tolian Soren.

 

[Commander Keiran MacDuff]

"A few centuries ago my daughter spent a bit of time on your world. She lived in San Francisco. I found her friends insufferable."

 

[queerTrekker]

This is my formal request that at some point an El-Aurian (specifically Guinan's father, who is referenced in Time's Arrow) makes some kind of appearance in Discovery.

Why?

No reason I guess. It would just be cool.

Carry on.

That would be awesome!

 

[Timo]

I admit I'd like to see the Farragut disaster "live". Perhaps the Discovery arrives to help the survivors?

Prime material for the "Guess the contradictions and canon violations" thread!

It's pretty difficult to fit the "Obsession" facts into a working whole. We don't know whether Kirk was aboard the ship or planetside, whether Garrovick died on orbit or standing next to Kirk on the surface, whether the ship herself survived the attack when half her crew did not, or what the ship looked like - but there are many, many ways to get it wrong.

It would still be awesome to see a DIS interpretation of the events! Perhaps with hints as to why Starfleet didn't think there would be anything to be done about the killer cloud, and no reason to make it a matter of common knowledge for starship skippers and other top officers.

Ah, so we just never heard Guinan's then?

Might be there's cultural-geographical variety in the naming practices. Martus and Soran were white guys, Guinan was not.

OTOH, Martus was known by his first name, Soran by his second. More cultural variety there? Or just a case of any El-Aurian insisting on first-name basis when on the famous Listener mode, which Soran alone skipped?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Ah, so we just never heard Guinan's then? But we still won't know who this guy is related to unless they name-drop.

Back before DS9 aired, there was a rumor that Guinan's son would make an appearance, and that he'd be in DS9's brig. Since that's what eventually happens to Martus....well, hey, it could be.

 

[queerTrekker]

Back before DS9 aired, there was a rumor that Guinan's son would make an appearance, and that he'd be in DS9's brig. Since that's what eventually happens to Martus....well, hey, it could be.

Guinan has been noted saying that she's had a few kids, it would be pretty awesome if one of them ended up on Discovery.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ The writers were going to actually have Martus be Guinan's son, but Whoopi Goldberg wasn't available for that episode so they dropped all references to her.

As for Guinan herself, we don't know if it's her first or last name, or indeed *any* of her names (as Q pointed out in "Q Who").