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Either Scotty or Sulu was really darn sexist that one time.

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Season 3 Episode 18, "The Lights of Zetar." Scotty falls in love.

Chekov: "I did not zink scotty vould fall in love vith ze brainy type."

Sulu: "I didn't think Scotty even realizes she has a brain."

What in the name of the Kraken? Farinas was right, TOS was a bit more sexist than people give it credit for.

EDIT: Why do I keep forgetting that sarcasm doesn't work in text?
 
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How is that sexist?

Chekov's question simply means Scotty might have personality preferences. Yes, there are brainy women, somewhere in the middle women, simple women, dumb women and various types in-between (the same among men, of course). Yes, men have their preferences, though it is never established about Scotty.

Sulu's comment was about Scotty being so taken by Mira Romaine, that he would not have noticed her intellect in any case. He was love-struck. Nothing more.

Unless you posted a joke thread, let's not take a natural exchange of dialogue into the void of PC extremism.
 
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Oh I think we're heading into that PC field at warp nine! Ho ho ho! :guffaw:


TOS certainly has a few questionably bad bits as far as sexual equality, but yeah, that scene doesn't exactly feel like it's being sexist. That's a very typical conversation amongst colleagues.
 
GregroxMun said:
Season 3 Episode 18, "The Lights of Zetar." Scotty falls in love.

Chekov: "I did not zink scotty vould fall in love vith ze brainy type."

Sulu: "I didn't think Scotty even realizes she has a brain."

What in the name of the Kraken? Farinas was right, TOS was a bit more sexist than people give it credit for.
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"I don't think he even noticed she *has* a brain."

Ah--you think that means he has noticed only her deliciously large boobs. What Sulu meant was "Once Mister Scott found out that Lieutenant Romaine's father is Jacques Romaine, former Chief Engineer for all of Starfleet, I don't think Mister Scott has noticed anything else about her!"

Maybe the only sexist person here is you. ;)
 
For all its forward thinking ideas, Star Trek was still very much a child of the '60's. The Mad Men era. Something to bear in mind when moments like that come up. The writer probably had his girlfriend or wife in mind to star as Mira Romaine when he wrote it...

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..... oh.
 
Nightowl1701 said:
For all its forward thinking ideas, Star Trek was still very much a child of the '60's. The Mad Men era. Something to bear in mind when moments like that come up. The writer probably had his girlfriend or wife in mind to star as Mira Romaine when he wrote it...
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"The Lights of Zetar" was written by New Age book publisher Jeremy Tarcher and his wife, puppeteer/ventriloquist Shari Lewis. According to Memory Alpha, Lewis wanted to play the role of Mira Romaine herself.

Frankly, I think the puppet Lambchop could have written a better script.
 
Scotty was one of the most intelligent persons on the ship, but he came off as a humble guy too. Scotty might not have seen a woman with his own level of intelligence as a "brainy type." Scotty saw Romaine as normal.

And yes she had big cans too.

Melakon said:
Who is Farinas?
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I was wondering this as well.
 
scotpens said:
Nightowl1701 said:
For all its forward thinking ideas, Star Trek was still very much a child of the '60's. The Mad Men era. Something to bear in mind when moments like that come up. The writer probably had his girlfriend or wife in mind to star as Mira Romaine when he wrote it...
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"The Lights of Zetar" was written by New Age book publisher Jeremy Tarcher and his wife, puppeteer/ventriloquist Shari Lewis. According to Memory Alpha, Lewis wanted to play the role of Mira Romaine herself.

Frankly, I think the puppet Lambchop could have written a better script.
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I know! That was the joke! That's why I have that...

*blinks*

Well, I had a picture of Shari Lewis there... :confused:
 
I just wonder why Chekov would say that regardless. In "Who Mourns for Adonais?" Scotty fell for the anthropologist, Lt. Palamas. Of course in that episode, regarding her, McCoy uttered a very sexist line, saying Palamas is "all woman" and if Scotty wasn't the right man for her, that one day she'd find that right man and she'd leave the service.

There were some very sexist moments in TOS. Sulu's remark hardly qualifies.
 
Franklin said:
There were some very sexist moments in TOS
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Hopefully in the truly enlighten future, people won't have to be careful about what they say in public.

Uhura: "You see, in our century we've learned not to fear words."
 
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