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[Kaziarl]

Anyone remember the show Earth: Final Conflict?

Personally, I liked this show. I'm sure there's a lot of people that didn't, so I was curious.

What did you like about it?

What didn't you like about it?

What did you think of the special effects for the time?

What did you think about the characters?


Personally I gotta say my favorite part was any time they introduced Myth into the show, and I think they did it pretty well.

 

[Admiral_Young]

A thread on EFC pops up occasionally and people usually are of the opinion that the first season was the best season and they miss William Boone and everyone hates the final season. I liked Liam...and Boone equally. Didn't like Renee becoming the Atavus slayer in the final season.

 

[Kegg]

I remember liking the pilot episode (which was written by Gene Roddenberry as I recall), but I didn't follow the series much after that.

 

[jbny67]

The show started off great with a lot of promise but, degenerated into totally forgettable TV. Much like, the other Roddenbery associated show, Andromeda.

I liked Liam...and Boone equally.

Same here. That was the least of the problems with that show. IMO

 

[Gojirob]

I'll even go so far as to say I could deal with the final season, so long as I accepted that the Atavus would be seven kinds of invincible for like 19 eps, then suddenly become utterly mortal - it always happens with such anatagonists. My wall-banger came when Renee fought against an Atavus-vaccine factory infested by hybrids--a factory that had just gone into production, with checks done for the obvious! That wasn't plot-driven, that was just lazy. By that point, everyone knew about Sandoval's treachery and the greater threat, so for the staff to be replete with hybrids was a level of ridiculousness even popcorn viewing couldn't get me through.

 

[Brent]

A thread on EFC pops up occasionally and people usually are of the opinion that the first season was the best season and they miss William Boone and everyone hates the final season. I liked Liam...and Boone equally. Didn't like Renee becoming the Atavus slayer in the final season.

The last season didn't happen.

I am one that also liked Liam, Boone was ok, but I thought Liam's Kimeran nature was pretty cool.

 

[Mr Light]

Season One: good, Season Two: bad, Season Three: meh, Season Four: surprisingly good, Season Five: surprisingly awful and terrible.

 

[Admiral Rem]

IMHO -Season 1 showed us the potential of the series.. Boone's departure was the herald of things to come (specifically Tribune's desire to make it more action orientated). Many of the writers and producers left mid way in season one. From there, the writing suffered through most of season 2 and found some footing towards the very end of the season. Season three was an improvement over season 2. Season 4 was an improvement over seasons 2 and three, despite the departures that we would experience through out season 4. Season 5 was so unrecognizable and so badly written that it (IMHO) only showed slight embers of what it was. There was some hope with the return of some of the cast - but that was too far and few between. The series that I had remembered was for the most part gone.

 

[Broccoli]

I'm a big EFC fan.

Yes, the first season is probably the best season. Overall, it has the strongest stories, the plotting across the episodes is well done, and the premise of the show is very intriguing that even when the season took a spill, you still wanted to check it out.

The second season is a very mixed bag. The first half of the season is very uneven as the writers were trying to figure out how what direction they wanted to take the show. The first half has nearly every sci-fi story type you can have. Liam is an interesting addition to the mix, but it is clear the writers didn't think the concept behind his character out as much as they should have when starting out.

By the mid-point of season 2, the show finds its footing again in this new direction and it leads up to, what I think, was a fantastic cliffhanger finale. Season 3 is more of this and the show stays pretty consistent. However, by the third season, the Taelons (embodied by Zo'or) have become very one-dimensional.

Season 4 is awesome and I rank it almost at a season 1 level. The show displays a progression not seen since the end of season 2. Although the US turning against the Taelons and the Resistance joining with the government seems to pop up a little too quickly, the arc of the season is well designed and the season ends on a fairly satisfying note if that was the end of the entire series.

Then came season 5 which, say what you will about the previous seasons conflicting with one another, takes the show in a completely different direction. It could be forgivable, if the season was somewhat good, but it just really wasn't. I'll admit, the season did have a decent sense of internal continuity, but it's just a mess all around. It is clear that some exec somewhere saw that Buffy was popular, so EFC should ape Buffy. EFC had previously lifted stuff from other popular things (such as when The Matrix hit, suddenly Liam is wearing a long, black trench coat and Renee is all Trinity-ed out), but season 5 was shameless.

I remember liking the pilot episode (which was written by Gene Roddenberry as I recall), but I didn't follow the series much after that.

Not quite. The aired pilot is significantly different from Roddenberry's version. Both had the same general plot line (Boone joins Resistance), but how that all went down is very, very different. Putting Roddenberry's name as the writer was more of a tribute than anything else.

 

[Peter the Younger]

I dropped off after the second season, then caught a whiff of the fifth and had a big wtf? moment. They had some good ideas there in the beginning, but the constant plot reshuffling on this show makes Millennium look like a model of consistency.