i would have to say that eddie paskey( lt.leslie) is most likely the enterprise security cheif in tos. he seems to always be somewhere in most the episodes and is clearly a redshirt( most often with phaser in hand) in devil in the dark its giotto(barry russo) who also would have been a good reguler in the show but eddie simply has more screen time and is in a lot of background shots, as well as being bill shatners stand in.what do you think?
eddie paskey,first security cheif?
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and don't forget, Lt. Leslie has the gift of returning from the dead, which would be a good skill for the "chief of the redshirts"...
...In Obsession, Kirk referred to him by name (Mr. Lesie), then Leslie promptly became one of the victims of the cloud creature. He was definitely meant to be dead in that episode. However, in several episodes that followed, Mr. Leslie was alive and well again...and it wasn't just a case of the actor Eddie Paskey playing another role because he was referred to as "Leslie".
As for getting back to the topic...I don't know if I ever though of him as the chief of security -- I just thought of him as just another officer who we say from time to time (like Hadley, Brent, and Lemli)
...In Obsession, Kirk referred to him by name (Mr. Lesie), then Leslie promptly became one of the victims of the cloud creature. He was definitely meant to be dead in that episode. However, in several episodes that followed, Mr. Leslie was alive and well again...and it wasn't just a case of the actor Eddie Paskey playing another role because he was referred to as "Leslie".
As for getting back to the topic...I don't know if I ever though of him as the chief of security -- I just thought of him as just another officer who we say from time to time (like Hadley, Brent, and Lemli)
I would say he's not most likely the enterprise security chief. Cheif.. maybe..
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Giotto
ok forget my mispelled chief: lets just call him the HEDD of security!
Not a bad guess, except for the fact that we saw a security chief, Lieutenant Commander Giotto, in Devil in the Dark. BTW, he was one of the people in the first season who had the same "wardrobe malfunction" as Spock and Ben Finney -- referred to as lt. cmdrs. but had full commander's stripes on their sleeves. All three were the earliest of many costuming/rank errors that have become legendary in ST.
I can buy Leslie later becoming security chief, though. As for Leslie dying then coming back, maybe he had a twin brother who was killed in Obsession! However, I would have preferred they made Sulu security chief like his counterpart in the mirror universe.
Red Ranger
I can buy Leslie later becoming security chief, though. As for Leslie dying then coming back, maybe he had a twin brother who was killed in Obsession! However, I would have preferred they made Sulu security chief like his counterpart in the mirror universe.
Red Ranger
I read somewhere that there was supposed to be a scene where McCoy "saved" Leslie and maybe some of the others but it was never filmed.
Also, "Leslie" played another role, I think an assistant in sickbay where McCoy called him another name "Connors" or something like that.
"Connors" is a perfectly valid first name for Mr. Connors Leslie, of course. 
The thing in "Obsession" is that Paskey's character, whom Kirk addresses as Leslie, is one of the two that follow Ensign Rizzo to their doom. While Rizzo is left barely alive, all the heroes including McCoy behave as if the other two just plain died. Kirk declares the two dead, both immediately on the field and in the subsequent log entry. Also, their faces are a whiter shade of pale than Rizzo's, who briefly survives; when the second batch of redshirts bites it, again the one guy with still-pink skin stands a chance of survival while the whiteface is declared dead.
So the supposed scene where Leslie is saved would ill fit the episode as ultimately filmed. Alas.
But perhaps it was just Ryan Leslie (all of Paskey's redshirt appearances) who died down there, while his kid brother Connors Leslie (all goldshirt appearances until his brother's death, which prompted a career move) survived till the third season?
Timo Saloniemi
The thing in "Obsession" is that Paskey's character, whom Kirk addresses as Leslie, is one of the two that follow Ensign Rizzo to their doom. While Rizzo is left barely alive, all the heroes including McCoy behave as if the other two just plain died. Kirk declares the two dead, both immediately on the field and in the subsequent log entry. Also, their faces are a whiter shade of pale than Rizzo's, who briefly survives; when the second batch of redshirts bites it, again the one guy with still-pink skin stands a chance of survival while the whiteface is declared dead.
So the supposed scene where Leslie is saved would ill fit the episode as ultimately filmed. Alas.
But perhaps it was just Ryan Leslie (all of Paskey's redshirt appearances) who died down there, while his kid brother Connors Leslie (all goldshirt appearances until his brother's death, which prompted a career move) survived till the third season?
Timo Saloniemi
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/2006/12/send-in-clones-leslie-triplets-and.html
My take on it last time the subject came up (2006).
My take on it last time the subject came up (2006).
How does watching in Stardate Order fix characters dying in Season 2 coming back in Season 3?
(BTW, I went through Trek in Stardate Order last year and it was pretty cool)
But perhaps it was just Ryan Leslie (all of Paskey's redshirt appearances) who died down there, while his kid brother Connors Leslie (all goldshirt appearances until his brother's death, which prompted a career move) survived till the third season?
Ah, yes -- The "Leslie twins". I thought of this too, but a more likely theory is that 1960s TV shows really didn't care that much about the continuity of the series as a whole -- TV was more episodic, with each episode intended to be considered separately (for the most part). If you wanted a previously dead "extra-type" character to come back, you just simply bring him back without explanation.
But that's not being discussed.
We're discussing how IN THE STORYLINE Leslie appears to die and then be alive later.
If we're going by onscreen canon, then the "twins" thing is the only explanation.
The guy in Sick Bay, the nurse, orderly, tech, whatever?
Just looked a lot like the Leslie twins...sort of like Superman and Clark Kent.
I for one am willing to allow for twins, but it may be stretching to try for them being triplets, one of whom is named Connors who switched between command, science/medicine and security.
Hey, I'm all for the Leslie triplets! Let's do it! -- RR
Actually except for the identical Leslie brothers no one knows how many there are and they won't tell. One was even found living on Eminiar.
Kirk: Just how many of you are there?
Leslie: Sorry sir but I'm not going to tell you.
Kirk: Huh? Of course you can tell me. How many of you are there?
Leslie: Sorry but I'm not telling.
Kirk: All right mister! I'm ORDERING you to tell me!
Leslie: No sir.
Kirk: This is mutiny mister!
Leslie: Yes sir, it is.
Robert
Kirk: Just how many of you are there?
Leslie: Sorry sir but I'm not going to tell you.
Kirk: Huh? Of course you can tell me. How many of you are there?
Leslie: Sorry but I'm not telling.
Kirk: All right mister! I'm ORDERING you to tell me!
Leslie: No sir.
Kirk: This is mutiny mister!
Leslie: Yes sir, it is.
Robert
One of two explanations. They could be dopplegangers.
Leslie was all over that ship, in all different colors of uniforms.
There was even one instance, in "Mudd's Women", where Eddie Paskey was addressed by McCoy as "Conners", so apparently Leslie had a twin on board.
As for "Obsession", I think I recall in the log entry after the commercial break, there was a reference to not all of the guards being dead after that particular attack.
Maybe he's an Immortal. Anybody recall him running around with a sword?
There was even one instance, in "Mudd's Women", where Eddie Paskey was addressed by McCoy as "Conners", so apparently Leslie had a twin on board.
As for "Obsession", I think I recall in the log entry after the commercial break, there was a reference to not all of the guards being dead after that particular attack.
Maybe he's an Immortal. Anybody recall him running around with a sword?
"Clones"
I just watched "The Galileo 7" again the other night, and think I found another sighting. Kirk goes to the transporter room and talks to a fellow about their progress in fixing the transporter glitch. The guy's face is 3/4 away from the camera, but it sure looks like Paskey. He had a few lines to Kirk. Can anyone confirm?
PS Maybe the "multiple Paskey" conundrum could be solved by evoking Everett's MU theory. Perhaps "Mr. Leslie" was caught in some type of dimensional trap, like Worf in "Parallels," except all of his various incarnations stayed in our dimension for some reason.
Doug
PS Maybe the "multiple Paskey" conundrum could be solved by evoking Everett's MU theory. Perhaps "Mr. Leslie" was caught in some type of dimensional trap, like Worf in "Parallels," except all of his various incarnations stayed in our dimension for some reason.
Doug
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