Eccleston: "Doctor Who Almost Destroyed My Career"
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The idea that "Rose" is a post-regeneration story barely made sense in 2005 (especially once it became known that RTD had viewed Eccleston's Doctor as the one who had ended the Time War), and it really didn't make any sense in 2013 when we saw what led up to the Doctor's regeneration into Eccleston. The idea that a war-weary Doctor remembers stealing the Moment with the intent to use it, doesn't remember what happens after yet sees that Gallifrey and the Daleks are gone, and then lands in London where he acts all jovial with Jackie as though nothing had happened simply makes no sense. One of the good things to come out of "The Day of the Doctor," frankly, is that, going by the Doctors' ages, there's now something near 100 years for the ninth Doctor before "Rose."
Well, Moffat seems to like the idea that Rose was Nine's post-regeneration story from her point of view.
Of course, I never agreed with that sentiment, and I still don't.
That said... I'm weary looking at any of the episode pre-End of Time through the prism of Day of the Doctor. Simply because, I don't think the Doctor in those instances thinks he killed the Time Lords. He knows he killed him. He saw that. At least, that's my opinion.
Of course, I never agreed with that sentiment, and I still don't.
That said... I'm weary looking at any of the episode pre-End of Time through the prism of Day of the Doctor. Simply because, I don't think the Doctor in those instances thinks he killed the Time Lords. He knows he killed him. He saw that. At least, that's my opinion.
True.
Well said, but you must remember that there are some Marvel fans so obsessed/possessive of what belongs to Disney that criticism from anyone once performing in a MCU film is to be damned for not considering those thin films to be the zenith of their careers. Eccleston was correct about his part in the film, and his position of experience in it gives him the right to say anything that comes to mind.
Eccleston has been confirmed to do his first ever Conference appearance: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ra...on-2018-doctor-who-christopher-eccleston/amp/
This should be fun (after his "revelation"). Will RTD be there? 
I bet that convention will quickly sell out, if it hasn't already. It's a pity I'm no longer stationed in Brussels because I would definitely go. Too bad he's not speaking on stage though.
Baby steps.
^ But he's charging hundreds of pounds for a meet/photo op.
I'd be very disappointed in RTD if he did blacklist CE. If things were so difficult, it was amazing they pulled off what they did. It's a great season. I'd like to think he would come back... One day he shall come back. Yes, he shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to him that he is not mistaken in his.
I'd say different regime. Different days.
If he was going to do more than one season, why did they shoot and use a regen? It took up a fair bit of his last ep. Also, IMO, it meant RTD could hit all the points he needed to: TARDIS, companion, time travel, deep space, Gallifrey, Time Lords, and finally, regeneration. Everything you need to know about the Doctor, everything, is in that first series.
I'd be very disappointed in RTD if he did blacklist CE. If things were so difficult, it was amazing they pulled off what they did. It's a great season. I'd like to think he would come back... One day he shall come back. Yes, he shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to him that he is not mistaken in his.
An alternate ending was filmed, though I think it's since been revealed the intent was just to use at press screenings to try and keep the regeneration a surprise for broadcast. Of course, than it got publicly announced beforehand anyway.
Still, Eccleston's contract did include an option for returning for a second year, which he was at one point considering. And indeed, many of the season 2 writers initially didn't realize they were writing for a new Doctor. Indeed, Moffat admitted when he wrote Girl in the Fireplace, he believed he was writing for Eccleston.
^^ That story does give credence to Moff's claim that he never wrote "for a specific Doctor" but rather for the Doctor. That story fits Ten so well, that to read it was written with Nine in mind is slightly odd. He would've sold it, but Tennant's natural good looks did help sell Madame Pomposdor's affectation towards the Doctor more effectively than they might've with Eccleston (imagine McCoy in that episode!).
You just make Madame Du Pompadour older (and the ship)
Yeah, but Tennant's more palatable attractiveness helps the story in that superficial level. At least, that's what I believe.
Ten was definitely the ‘Ladies Choice’ doctor lol.
Well, it helps that Tennant and Sophia Myles were a believable couple in "The Girl in the Fireplace" (and they would go on to date for a few years, until Tennant broke up with her by telephone when she was filming Moonlight). I'm not sure that Eccleston and Myles would have been as believable.
But it's probable that RTD would have cast someone else for the Madame du Pompadour, someone who worked opposite Eccleston with believable chemistry. For instance, I can imagine a plausible "Girl in the Fireplace" with Eccleston and Indira Varma, for instance. Based on a radio adaptation of 1984 with Eccleston and Pippa Nixon, I can also plausibly imagine Nixon as Reinette. Rome's Lyndsey Marshal would also be someone I could imagine opposite Eccleston romantically.
Point is, don't imagine that an Eccleston "Girl in the Fireplace" would be exactly the same as Tennant's with only the lead actors replaced.
Eccleston was paired with Kate Winslet in Jude, which was believable but bleak and miserable. Very different kind of story.
Random fact: Kate Winslet is who RTD wanted to get to play River Song.
While I can imagine Winslet as River, I can't imagine Winslet as a recurring River the way Kingston was.
