We saw a pretty big chunk of the planet in some shots, but didn't see much of any buildup.
Earth cities in the 24th century
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We saw a pretty big chunk of the planet in some shots, but didn't see much of any buildup.
I've wondered for awhile about what balance would be struck between terraforming versus conserving the natural state of a planet/environment. Perhaps that has something to do with it.
It would probably be more straightforward for planets like Risa that had a local population that wanted & welcomed extensive change, but Mars would be subject to the same development-conservation debate as many other places.
They separated themselves from Earth, just doesn't seem to be much there for that to have happened more than two centuries prior.
City remodeling. How many years have passed between Discovery and Picard? Close to 140 years? Federation has expanded even more so since the events of season 1 of Discovery. In between that time there is more than enough time for buildings to be removed, remodeled, etc. Making the area round the tower less congested, especially if more and more people/companies/organizations can move off world, would be a good idea to in a more peaceful era. Or just relocating buildings and people to other parts of the city as new locations are built. Urban redevelopment is a real thing, has existed for a long time and wouldn't go away.What the actual fuck happened to Paris between 2257 and 2399
That's assuming there wasn't some kind of attack on that area at some point which could also force a remodeling as well.
V'Ger supposedly did nothing beyond shutting down the planetary defense network. But the Whale Probe is likely to have killed tens of thousands with its weather manipulation; perhaps much of Paris was flushed away? It's also possible that bad things happened to Earth after ST4:TVH, or before TMP but after DSC S1; they would not necessarily warrant special mention, and the only datapoint we really have is the "about a century of relative calm before the Founder Scare" mentioned in "Homefront".
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Riker says that tens of millions of people live on the Moon in the 24th century. The Moon has never looked inhabited from orbit in any version of Trek that I can remember.
Enough so much that you can see cities and lakes, presumably under biodomes, from Montana.
Riker has AMAZING EYESIGHT.
Plus he says you can see "New Berlin"
You know what that means...
NAZI'S ON THE MOON
Maybe Martian cities are largely underground?
It'd be hard to spot a lot of Earth cities from orbit without artificial lighting at nighttime.
Underground.
Any cityscape you see through a 'window' on trek is suspect. It could merely be a display screen showing a hologram of a city view from another time or place.
Hey, "Iron Sky" was a wonderful film.
One of the destinations seen through the Iconian gateway in "Contagion" was Toronto...
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Toronto_City_Hall
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Toronto_City_Hall
I live on the west coast, about 90 minutes away from S.F. and 5 1/2 hours from L.A. Everytime I watch a ST episode I keep wondering about the area where I live, was it updated with the newest technology of the 23rd and 24th centuries. Did it get blown away in WWIII or was it affected by the Hermosa Quake of 2047 since the whole SoCal region fell into the ocean.
At the end of the last episode 1x03 we get a nice view on Western Europe by night with the cities of France, Germany and Italy nicely illuminated. However, it looks very similar to a stock photo than can be found online. So either they just didn't care to alter any of these infrastructure details to make it look like we are in the future, or things just haven't changed much over the last few centuries. I assume they were too committed with making the ship look nice than to care about us discussing late 24th century geography.
Or we could take this as solid proof that, with 24th century technology, Earth can afford to get nostalgic, and is replicating its historical heyday looks rather than persisting with modern highway-less, non-lightpollution style. (Perhaps a few months later, the planet would celebrate the "Let's Party Like It Were 1848!" week and redo all the buildings and roads and a couple of the forests and rivers, too?)
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
They have downgraded the tech in terms of how powerful it is. Looks cooler yet is less effective. So in their minds they probably think solar power still makes sense. They need to go buy themselves a Star Trek Tech Manuel!
Jason