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'Early Instalment Weirdness' in The Next Generation...?

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As TVTropes calls it. :)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness

Of course, a lot of this stuff is only 'weird' with benefit of hindsight. But TNG is plagued with it, in large part because it was being made up as it went along. It's funny to look back on the first half dozen episodes or so with the mindset that at that stage Data was a product of unknown aliens rather than the invention of an eccentric human scientist, or that Worf was a proud warrior from the Klingon homeworld rather than a orphan who was brought up by humans (both of which were only established later in the season).

Data's character in particular hits it head-on. One of the earliest things we see him do is to smile at Commander Riker, and there are various other indications that he may not understand emotion, but he's certainly able to express it. Even Picard's protest in The Naked Now that "intoxication is a human condition" doesn't actually explain why the supposedly non-organic Data was able to pick up the virus. I have no doubt that if it had been written in the later seasons the writers would have had him unaffected, the last man standing, taking control of the bridge after all the human crew have abandoned her.

Some of the other early instalment weirdness are mere cosmetic details. The bridge having those brown lockers on each side, Riker not having a beard, Geordi on the bridge, Worf not being at tactical, no regular chief engineer among the cast. Only the latter of these makes a real impact on the scripts. It seems strange that every time we go down to engineering there's a brand new person in charge (unless they work in shifts?), and the only person who appeared regularly enough that we can probably definitely say he was probably Geordi's predecessor in the job was Chief Argyle. And even he only appeared twice in 26 episodes.

Is there anything else about these early years that really strikes you as odd in retrospect?
 
Riker not having a beard
I know. Major headfuck or what. Impossible to get ones head around the concept that a man might or might not have facial hair at different points in his life.
:guffaw:

What can I say? If one grew up watching later seasons of TNG, as I mostly did, then season one's Commander William T. 'Babyface' Riker really is a bit WTF in retrospect. Him shaving it off again in Insurrection even more so. :)
 
Data wasn't determined to have no emotions until the third year of the show, when the new executive producer insisted upon it. Several writers who had been with the show for some time disagreed, to no avail.
 
Riker not having a beard
I know. Major headfuck or what. Impossible to get ones head around the concept that a man might or might not have facial hair at different points in his life.
:guffaw:

What can I say? If one grew up watching later seasons of TNG, as I mostly did, then season one's Commander William T. 'Babyface' Riker really is a bit WTF in retrospect. Him shaving it off again in Insurrection even more so. :)

I guess things like Riker's beard (or lack of it) were pretty minor speed bumps for those of us who grew up in the 60s and had to deal with a Catwoman who was first "My Living Doll", then a "Time Tunnel" technician, then a pretty black lady! ( I won't even get into when Gomez Addams replaced Bele and showed up as the Riddler!...)
 
Several writers who had been with the show for some time disagreed, to no avail.

Well, he continued to emote nevertheless. "In Theory" is a nice example of him going on a hormone trip and then shaking it off in a split second, and indicates how he could have "faked" all those emotional moments and still felt deep within that this wasn't "real" emoting. (He'd be wrong, of course.)

Timo Saloniemi
 
Huh? Since when was it believed that Data had real emotions on the show? He always struck me as being extra stiff and robotic in those early years, if anything. He might register a look of awe or surprise or concern now and then, but I never thought it was supposed to be genuine emotion.
 
Huh? Since when was it believed that Data had real emotions on the show? He always struck me as being extra stiff and robotic in those early years, if anything. He might register a look of awe or surprise or concern now and then, but I never thought it was supposed to be genuine emotion.

The "I don't feel anything" shtick didn't start until The Ensigns of Command in season three. While he doesn't out and out say he has emotion, look at how he reacts to Armus in Skin of Evil after Yar's death.
 
Even Picard's protest in The Naked Now that "intoxication is a human condition" doesn't actually explain why the supposedly non-organic Data was able to pick up the virus.
They tried to explain it away with this

Data: We are more alike than unlike, my dear Captain. I have pores; humans have pores. I have... fingerprints; humans have fingerprints. My chemical nutrients are like your blood. If you prick me - do I not... leak?

The virus got in through his pores, just like everyone else & circulated throughout his systems via his chemical nutrients, having the same or a similar effect on him

Hey... it's sci-fi
 
The novel "Ghost Ship" by Diane Carey. Written before Next Gen premiered, based on the series bible and (I think) the "Encounter at Farpoint" script. Utterly bizarre - Riker's treatment of Data, Picard locking himself in a sensory deprivation tank to better empathize with their nemesis, "Bill" Riker.... :cardie:
 
The one thing that always seemed weird to me was how overly-awed and amazed everyone always was about the Holodeck in the first season.

Even back in the 80s, I remember thinking "Um, you guys are living in the freakin 24th Century. With all the crazy stuff the human race has seen and experienced by that time, you should not be THIS amazed by holographic technology."

I realize most of that was for the benefit of the audience, but it still seemed a bit over the top.
 
Speaking of weird and appearances, was it ever explained why Troi went from a nice "hair-down" and "uniform" look from the premiere to the ugly uniform/hair-bun look for the remainder of the season. Having her in the uniform with the hair down might have made her a lot better.
 
There were some concepts that were planned but never fully realized, aside from a few vague mentions very early on. The Enterprise was supposed to spend a lot of time on the fringes of explored space, and that's why it was able to carry families. Picard mentions being on the "outer rim" or something to that effect in "Conspiracy" and wasn't aware of some of the odd things going on back at HQ. The role which became Troi's was intended to be a Federation liason officer, whose job was to advise the captain on diplomacy and similar things if necessary. The Klingons were intended to be full Federation members instead of merely allies, as Wesley references in one ep.
 
As TVTropes calls it. :)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EarlyInstallmentWeirdness

Of course, a lot of this stuff is only 'weird' with benefit of hindsight. But TNG is plagued with it, in large part because it was being made up as it went along.
actually, most long-running shows suffer from this in about the same degree. It's because you start the show with only a small bit of it worked out, and as the scripts come in and the actors performances start influencing the characters, and as staff changes, the thing grows in different directions than expected. Part of this is because when pitching a show you really only do the minimal amount of work developing it. This is because if the show doesn't sell, you've wasted a lot of time. As such, there's a lot of un- or ill-defined things that can and do change

Early episodes of M*A*S*H and Hill Street Blues are very different from what followed.
 
Speaking of weird and appearances, was it ever explained why Troi went from a nice "hair-down" and "uniform" look from the premiere to the ugly uniform/hair-bun look for the remainder of the season. Having her in the uniform with the hair down might have made her a lot better.

I think the concern was she looked too much like a cheerleader in the pilot (with her short skirt and curly hair), and needed to look more "serious and professional" sitting on the bridge.
 
Speaking of weird and appearances, was it ever explained why Troi went from a nice "hair-down" and "uniform" look from the premiere to the ugly uniform/hair-bun look for the remainder of the season. Having her in the uniform with the hair down might have made her a lot better.

I think the concern was she looked too much like a cheerleader in the pilot (with her short skirt and curly hair), and needed to look more "serious and professional" sitting on the bridge.

That's a bummer. Other than her orgasms with the alien jelly-fish, I thought she did look serious and professional.
 
There were some concepts that were planned but never fully realized, aside from a few vague mentions very early on. The Enterprise was supposed to spend a lot of time on the fringes of explored space, and that's why it was able to carry families. Picard mentions being on the "outer rim" or something to that effect in "Conspiracy" and wasn't aware of some of the odd things going on back at HQ. The role which became Troi's was intended to be a Federation liason officer, whose job was to advise the captain on diplomacy and similar things if necessary. The Klingons were intended to be full Federation members instead of merely allies, as Wesley references in one ep.

Yeah that was always my one big complaint about TNG-- they hardly ever seemed to be out exploring the frontier. Most of the time they were either travelling to existing Federation planets or colonies, or mediating disputes between planets that had already been contacted. Or they were just ferrying people around like they were the freakin city bus.

Which is why it was always a thrill when we got episodes like Where No Man or Q Who, when they found themselves in a truly strange and unknown area of the galaxy.
 
The Borg. I never understood how they were meant to be the ones who scooped up the Neutral Zone colonies, seemingly picking at the edges of the Federation and then OMG on to Earth! all of a sudden. Also, nobody saw them?
 
Space is really big. Very rarely so in science fiction, but in real life, it's so insanely, unimaginably vast that ships darting about unnoticed along unmonitored trajectories is quite believable, IMO
 
The Borg. I never understood how they were meant to be the ones who scooped up the Neutral Zone colonies, seemingly picking at the edges of the Federation and then OMG on to Earth! all of a sudden. Also, nobody saw them?
The idea as of "The Neutral Zone" was the Borg were part of why the Romulans were absent for 50 years, so they were mucking around over there and not in Federation space. It was only when they gobbled up the Neutral Zone outposts that the Federation was to get their first inkling that they existed.

Things changed when Maurice Hurley left the show...or the show left him. Whichever it was.
 
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