Earliest "Canon Violation"?
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Bumpy Klingons = continuity error, though addressed in DS9 and ENT, so maybe not even a continuity error in the long run.
And yes, the actors/writers refined Kirk and Spock, but sanded away their rough edges and quirkiness IMHO. They became more stereotyped. I like Spock's edginess early on, his obvious stress in being part human (see Naked Time, Enemy Within, etc.). This is off topic though.
What is the first contradiction to something in The Cage? That would be the first continuity error. Technically if it is on screen it is not a canon violation. A canon violation could only occur where a noncanonical work contradicts on-screen stuff.
And yes, the actors/writers refined Kirk and Spock, but sanded away their rough edges and quirkiness IMHO. They became more stereotyped. I like Spock's edginess early on, his obvious stress in being part human (see Naked Time, Enemy Within, etc.). This is off topic though.
What is the first contradiction to something in The Cage? That would be the first continuity error. Technically if it is on screen it is not a canon violation. A canon violation could only occur where a noncanonical work contradicts on-screen stuff.
There's actually more science behind the time warp belief because of the Einstein theory that if you go past the speed of light you are traveling through time. But that was the show in it's infancy. Sometime in the writing for the show Gene or someone decided to just use warp as a faster way of travel and not have it so confusing.
Revisionist canon. Roddenberry's intent when he made TMP, and what he told people in interviews, was that the Klingons had always had bumpy foreheads; we just couldn't see it in TOS because it was an imperfect representation of the "reality." (I recall him making a joke about static in the transmissions from the future or something like that.) He was dissatisfied with the limited makeup resources he'd been stuck with on the original series, so once he had more money and better technology, he didn't hesitate to rewrite the rules of the universe to bring it closer to what he imagined.
I always thought it was the same thing.
Full, formal term is "time warp factor X", and we hear it used by Pike.
Later, it is shortened and we hear Kirk use "warp factor X".
Still later, it is just called "warp X".
Just an informal shorthand, I always thought.
Easier to say "warp 4" rather than some longer term like
"space-time warp factor 4".
The people on the Enterprise aren't really accellerating past or even near the speed of light, though, right? Space is normal inside their warp bubble. That is why they're not a totally different age from the people they left at home (a la Planet of the Apes).
So maybe the line about the time barrier being broken means that space can be warped at ftl "speeds" but the people don't face the problem of time dilation: a "barrier" that would keep many people from wanting to travel at near-c speeds before warping was invented.
I can't believe I'm conjecturing about why a fictional character spoke a certain way in a 1960s teleplay!
So maybe the line about the time barrier being broken means that space can be warped at ftl "speeds" but the people don't face the problem of time dilation: a "barrier" that would keep many people from wanting to travel at near-c speeds before warping was invented.
I can't believe I'm conjecturing about why a fictional character spoke a certain way in a 1960s teleplay!
Klingons call humans "Earthers", too, so they aren't exactly a reliable source for what things are called.
^Right. Everyone knows the correct term is "Earthicans."
This Side of Paradise - the one without the indians. ;-)
After Trek it was cannonised by Gene that each speed is double that speed of light. Warp 1=2xs speed of light, W2=4x speed of light, Warp 3=8 and so on.
The speed of light/time travel thing is based on one of Einstein's math theories but there's no way to actually prove it unless you go past the speed of light.
That's wrong on multiple levels. First of all, the warp formula in The Making of Star Trek defined the velocity as the cube of the warp factor: Warp 1 = c, warp 2 = 8c, warp 3 = 27c, etc. Second, it wasn't "canonized," since it was never stated onscreen, and in fact was directly contradicted onscreen (the time-and-distance relation asserted in "That Which Survives" is off by a factor of thousands from what that formula would produce). Third, 8 is not the double of 3.
On the contrary. The equations of Special Relativity have been confirmed over and over again, proving that the relation they define is physically accurate. That allows us to make predictions beyond observed data, because we know the overall pattern and can extrapolate beyond it. That's the whole point and power of a theory.
Of course, the theory also shows that travelling faster than light and travelling through time are both most likely impossible, because achieving either would require conditions that are most likely physically unattainable and would probably kill anyone who tried it even if the conditions could be attained.
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