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Each of us hides a secret pain...

c0rnedfr0g

Commodore
Commodore
... share it with me!

Sybok said it best himself: "Each man's pain is unique."

What did you think was the single worst part of STV ???
 
The very poor visuals of the ships save one or two shots. They really pulled me out of the movie and looked like it was a very very low budget B movie from the 50's and thus exaggerated the movies other problems. The whole scene in the observation lounge about the secret pain was the best part of the film.
 
"Romance" IMHO is a bit of an exaggeration. The two share a humorous line or three when working under pressure in the beginning. Then Uhura gets "amorous" at Scotty after the latter has been captured by Sybok's forces, and we are supposed to realize that this means Uhura is not herself...

Personally, I hate a visual or two, and the confusing editing of the first third of the movie where the as such nice scenes at the park only slow down the plot. Plus I think the old heroes could have been shot in a more flattering manner shipboard: fewer whole-body revelations, more close-ups, that sort of thing. And yeah, I could have done without the Scotty-bump joke, but that's not too bad if it's the only adverse thing remaining.

Basically I think it boils down to this: a "remastering" in the sense of what was done to TOS, coupled with a bit of re-editing, could SO save this movie without the need to reshoot any of the actor bits.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Oh good. I was afraid we were going to go two weeks without someone else saying how crappy Star Trek V was.

I loved Star Trek V. The line you just mentioned was actually some of the best parts of the movie. No other movie really offered me the chance to see just how strong of a bond Kirk, Spock & McCoy actually had. This movie reinforced that. Joke about the visuals, the Klingons, Paradise City, what have you, but the movie's heart was in the right place, and to me accomplished more than most of the other movies.

J.
 
^Perhaps we should have pinned threads titled "The Final Frontier sucks!" "Nemesis sucks!" "The Motion Picture was boring!" and "The Wrath of Khan = BEST. MOVIE. EVAR." to avoid this sort of thing.

I'm open to suggestions. And bribes. ;)
 
^Perhaps we should have pinned threads titled "The Final Frontier sucks!" "Nemesis sucks!" "The Motion Picture was boring!" and "The Wrath of Khan = BEST. MOVIE. EVAR." to avoid this sort of thing.

I'm open to suggestions. And bribes. ;)

Problem with your suggestion is that TMP is the best of the TOS films and Nem is the best of the TNG films.










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So many...............

Scotty/ Uhura gives me the shivers
FX embarrassed me..
the ending that isn't there "That's it??" they shoot the creature with a disrupter and Koord orders Klaa to stand down??
All the 'comedy' at the expense of the ship and the 'little 4'

The comedy from the big 3 was mostly tolerable because it was a self-efacing kind of silliness rather than just insulting.

Bit it did have potential which makes me feel sad rather than angry.
 
Eighty DAMN decks!

Aside from this, the low budget always bugged me the most - cheap effects shots, cheap new sets (with the exception of the bridge) and poor to non-existent redresses of the existing TNG sets. 'Row Row Your Boat' never bothered me, and generally the camping scenes, I think, were some of the better character moments of the film, though they could have been trimmed down and do to a degree seem forced. The Scotty 'bump' was pretty horrendous - there is no way he couldn't have seen that pipe. The Uhura/Scotty thing never bothered me much and in some weird way almost makes sense.

Corrections to those, plus some editing and the addition of something more menacing in the end 'chase' with Kirk on the planet would have fixed the movie for me.

:rommie:
 
I didn't mind the storyline so much, but I did think the costumer was horrible.

The jail scenes, with those three old asswipes in tight sweaters with shoulderpads? Jesus wept.

Joe, dry
 
On the pipe thing...we all have moments where we're not concentrating. That's how I read that scene.
I took it as 'life' letting Scotty know that this is not THE Enterprise. I actually love that scene and I take it as a tangential tribute to the previous demise of one of the Big Four stars of Star Trek. ("Life" has done similar to me many times... just when you think you've got "it" down or are feeling comfortable, life tends to let you know that complacency can hurt your head)
 
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