Dwight Shultz didn't get the St. Elsewhere job due too....

[Robert Maxwell]

^ Well, as long as you acknowledge that you wouldn't complain if this happened in reverse, I guess we're even.

I wouldn't be happy about it, but there's nothing at all illegal in doing it. Conservatives are the ones who love to trumpet at-will employment, but they don't seem to like it when employers exercise their at-will rights to deny a conservative a job.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ I know it's legal, but you yourself just admitted that you would be unhappy if the situation were reversed. So why is it so unusual that Dwight is? Why may liberals be unhappy about it, but not conservatives?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I may be unhappy about it, but I'm not going to spend decades bitching about it. I mean, he is complaining about things that happened in the '80s. Get over it, dude.

 

[PorthosShadow]

Who the hell cares what someone's politics are. All I care about is that they show up on time, do their job and make my life as stress free as possible. How does someone's politics effect their ability to do their job?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Who the hell cares what someone's politics are. All I care about is that they show up on time, do their job and make my life as stress free as possible. How does someone's politics effect their ability to do their job?

That depends upon the job. If people don't want to work with you in a team environment, you have a problem.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Who the hell cares what someone's politics are. All I care about is that they show up on time, do their job and make my life as stress free as possible. How does someone's politics effect their ability to do their job?

That depends upon the job. If people don't want to work with you in a team environment, you have a problem.

Yup. Like it or not, your reputation can easily follow you from job to job. If it becomes common knowledge that you're an asshole, then regardless of political persuasion you may find yourself short of work.

 

[PorthosShadow]

Who the hell cares what someone's politics are. All I care about is that they show up on time, do their job and make my life as stress free as possible. How does someone's politics effect their ability to do their job?

That depends upon the job. If people don't want to work with you in a team environment, you have a problem.

Yup. Like it or not, your reputation can easily follow you from job to job. If it becomes common knowledge that you're an asshole, then regardless of political persuasion you may find yourself short of work.

Was there any indication that he was difficult to work with or was it just his politics?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

That depends upon the job. If people don't want to work with you in a team environment, you have a problem.

Yup. Like it or not, your reputation can easily follow you from job to job. If it becomes common knowledge that you're an asshole, then regardless of political persuasion you may find yourself short of work.

Was there any indication that he was difficult to work with or was it just his politics?

He considers liberalism a mental illness. Someone with views that deranged is unlikely to keep quiet about them.

 

[Distorted Humor]

Was there any indication that he was difficult to work with or was it just his politics?

People are assuming he hard to deal with, when I never encountered any information saying that he hard to deal with on set, unlike say John Cusack or Vincent D'Onofrio.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The guy considers most of the folks he works with and for to be mentally ill...who needs him on the team?

You know what - I don't have to employ someone who considers my opinions to be "symptoms of mental illness," whether I find him otherwise obnoxious or not.

I just don't.

No scandal here, and no just cause for complaint. Next.

 

[J.T.B.]

Guess I am not going to support a "Blacklist" be it those who have communist leanings, or those who hold conservative views....

What Schultz wrote in the Breitbart piece indicates that there is not an institutionalized "blacklist," only that some individuals make unfair personal judgments based on politics. Surprise, surprise. He had a bad encounter with a cranky boss who rejected him on purely personal grounds. Let's not kid ourselves, bosses can and do things like that all the time, whether it's based on politics or where someone went to school or what sports team they like or how they dress. Some bosses are jerks.

OTOH, in the same piece he acknowledges he got a better job because of the rejection, and that other people helped him get other jobs, and that one of Hollywood's most notorious lefties, Paul Newman, was actually a fair and decent guy.

Actually it seems like overkill to even use the term "blacklist" here. There was a real Hollywood blacklist, it was run by right-wingers and it quite zealously ruined people's lives. These are minor complaints by comparison.

--Justin

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Actually it seems like overkill to even use the term "blacklist" here. There was a real Hollywood blacklist, it was run by right-wingers and it quite zealously ruined people's lives. These are minor complaints by comparison.

Yep, it's a misuse of the term and creates a nonexistent equivalence.

American conservatives routinely take an unbalanced view of social and economic injustice in which occasional violation of the traditional privileges/perogatives of the ruling class is held to be equivalent to the systematic violation of the rights of minorities and the disadvantaged. While not being at all funny, it's similar to Mel Brooks' formulation of the difference between comedy and tragedy:

"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die."

 

[The Nth Doctor]

All the silly political wringing aside, it's a pity Schultz didn't get it because I would have much preferred him over Howie Mandel as Fiscus.

 

[Davros]

I seem to remember many republicans around here who were perfectly ok with the boss who fired one of his employees for having a pro-Kerry bumper sticker in 2004.

 

[IndyJones]

^ I know it's legal, but you yourself just admitted that you would be unhappy if the situation were reversed. So why is it so unusual that Dwight is? Why may liberals be unhappy about it, but not conservatives?

You may as well ask, "Why is it that we make a bigger deal of it when a anti-gay pastor gets caught in a gay sex scandal than when a pro-gay rights advocate does?"

Hypocrisy.

Dwight Schultz whole-heartedly supports an ideology that allows employers to hire or fire people for whatever reason they wish. BUT in this case he perceives that he got the short end of the stick and he's still whining about it 30 years later.

And might I add that there's no reason to suspect Schultz would have gotten the job in the first place. He says he gave a terrible audition and that Mandel was already there as well. So, he chose to believe that he was persecuted and politics did it, but I'm sure plenty of actors have given bad auditions and not gotten parts without politics coming into play.

 

[Misfit Toy]

So, what's the problem?

Would you be upset if someone lost a acting job due to being say, a Obama fan?

If a producer said "There's not going to be a Obama [expletive] on this show!" I wonder what hell they would go though....

How do you pronounce [expletive] ?

"#!@%*"

 

[1001001]

I don't know if anyone might find this interesting but here is Dwight's own words on such things. http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/dschultz/2009/03/16/the-liberal-bastille/

IMO, reading between the lines, it sounds like Dwight makes sure everyone knows his conservative leanings, if you catch my drift, so he might ask for what he gets a little bit.

I have to say, I stopped reading when he called liberalism a "mental illness."

Yeah.

I'll have to tell my son: No more Chowder in our house!

 

[Mr. Adventure]

^^ He is great as Mung Daal, isn't he?

 

[1001001]

^^ He is great as Mung Daal, isn't he?

Yes he is.

I did not recognize the voice until I saw the episode where they lost their animation budget. Only then did I realize it was Schultz.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I remember debating politics a lot with my coworkers around the time of the 2004 election. One of my friends was a conservative Bush supporter, and I was a left-leaning liberal. When our debates started to spill over into argument territory, I felt that there was a real potential for damaging our friendship. So we stopped.

I honestly find debating politics useless a good 90% of the time. The likelihood of changing each other's minds is very small, but the likelihood of pissing each off is a LOT higher. So why do it?

All the silly political wringing aside, it's a pity Schultz didn't get it because I would have much preferred him over Howie Mandel as Fiscus.

But that would have robbed us of his Murdock on The A-Team. Not a switch I'd choose to make.