Duotronics vs Isolinear

[Kamen Rider Blade]

And why there are subprocessors to begin with.

You do know that Sub Processors exist IRL for everything.

All the major functions that you can think of do have options for Sub Processors of sorts.

This frees up the main CPU's to do more generalized work that are far more variable.

This is all before AI became a thing.

 

[knightgrace]

Yes I do. But I am not sure that the writers of the Star Trek the Next Generation Technical Manual did.

Furthermore the Control Data Corporation CDC 6600, had twelve peripheral CPUs, just to feed the sixty bit word length CPU. It's an old idea. I have forgotten whether or not the Illac IV, had them( this computer had 64 data processors(was to have much more))

But my essential point is that a computer system has to be Turing complete. In other words all Star Trek computers have to be Turing complete, meaning understandable.

To bring in another piece of the puzzle, a Klingon D-7 Battle Cruiser must have very weak computer systems...

Because Klingons are in a hurry, not wanting to wait unless it is absolutely necessary to. They want to know where their prey is. Not rather that there is a possibility that they may be the ones being hunted.

But Duotronics is what I have spent a lifetime on...

My greatest conclusion is that anything that I came up with, wouldn't be Duotronics...

My second is that it has to be something so fundamental in nature that only Dr. Daystrom would think of it.

But! Never fear, Smith is here, sorry wrong franchise. We will soon have something akin to Duotronics. Voice recognition - check, voice response - check, Library Computers - check; and so on...

If you don't understand it is the concept of Turing complete that holds out hope...

Some questions still to be answered, however like did the Class F Shuttlecraft have Duotronics? I don't think so.

I do think that we did see the "actual " Duotronic Computer system any time they showed auxiliary control.

Which gets my goat that the only decent color blueprints show a very small version there of...

 

[mithril]

The fact that Artificial Intelligence in the real world hallucinates, is an actual cause for concern. Meaning that there is a reason why in the episode 'Contagion', that only ninety percent of the Enterprise is beyond crew intervention. And why there are subprocessors to begin with.

properly programmed AI doesn't hallucinate. they're just learning systems trained on a very specific set of hard data.

Generative AI however hallucinates every damn time, because they're just a fancy statistical spread sheet taking a ton of random junk, rearranging it, and trying to output something that statistically resembles real content.

 

[publiusr]

Those hallucinations are great for liminal horror at least

 

[knightgrace]

Which proves that statistics is false...

 

[at Quark's]

Duotronics is supposedly the "Next Step" in computing technology that succeeds our Transistor based computing in the Trek 23rd Century

Duotronics is invented in 2243, so that's still about 220 years away. That's quite a long time, also given how fast developments in computing technology generally have been between 1945 and today.

I therefore wonder whether it's supposed to be the successor to our transistor based computing, or simply a successor (with perhaps one or more different technologies in between). MA indeed claims that 'duotronics' succeeded transistor and resistor-based technologies, but sources Bride of Chaotica for this, and this episode says no such thing. The episode merely says 'resistors' were used a few centuries before duotronics.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Duotronics is invented in 2243, so that's still about 220 years away. That's quite a long time, also given how fast developments in computing technology generally have been between 1945 and today.

True, but at current pace, the transistor & resistor still has a ways to go before it gets replaced.
So we're in-line to mimic this small aspect of Trek History.

I therefore wonder whether it's supposed to be the successor to our transistor based computing, or simply a successor (with perhaps one or more different technologies in between). MA indeed claims that 'duotronics' succeeded transistor and resistor-based technologies, but sources Bride of Chaotica for this, and this episode says no such thing. The episode merely says 'resistors' were used a few centuries before duotronics.

I think it's supposed to be the notable successor, anything in-between will fizzle out and not get much R&D / Development and become a foot-note in history.

Similar to how IANA is trying to push IPv6 and skipped IPv5 over our current IPv4.

Although with "Carrier Grade NAT" address space, you really don't need IPv6 once you do some re-organization & re-use of IPv4 IP's.

I've already figured out how you can get back ~17.968% IP's of IPv4 and organize IPv4 such that you don't have to worry about running out of IP addresses and we can re-jigger IPv6 to be better and more useful as a "InterStellar IP system".

The current design of IPv6 sucks, and I agree with this author.

Alot of the fundamental design of IPv6 and how it inter-operates with IPv4 needs to be re-designed and re-thought.

I don't think IPv4 will ever go away.

IPv4 is best used as a local Planet-Side IP system.

 

[knightgrace]

Okay, there is a new technology in the last few years( I have forgotten exactly when(but it was in Scientific American)) called memsistors [memory resistors], followed by mempacitors[memory capacitors], and memtransistors...

The point was to go back in essence to core memory arrays, and do the processing in memory, one step up from Procesor-in- Memory systems, the reason why was bandwidth...the entire memory applied at once to processing. Memory technology means in essence a multistate system of increasing storage.

The real problem is the small size of the word of the computer in comparison with the entirety of memory and input volumes. Currently at 64 bit word length. And that is for address space.

A computer may seem fast, but something that engages the whole of memory for processing will be really fast in comparison...

Meaning that scanning a person for Transport, could occur simultaneously...

Now that they have the first real optical memories even faster.

 

[CaptChris42]

They say it's critical, but what is it exactly?

What is a Transtator?

::shrugs::

From what I can guess, it would be the equivalent of the registers for the modern computer to do their math.

That's just a very rough guess.

Anybody else have ideas?

Varying descriptions of a transtator have been given. Some even hinting it has a 'trans-state' effect, or is somewhat similar to the effects of the Fushigi-no-umi crystals used in Phasers, for the Rapid Nadion Effect.

It's likely supposed to one up the transistor in at least some fashion. And maybe a hold-over from older ideas about Dilithium crystals being like capacitors at times?

Also, the Starfleet Dynamics books gave a fairly detailed description of Duotronics being based on quantum switching and super-positional principles...