Dumb Things In Star Trek Beyond Everyone Just Ignored!
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1. How is it a co-incidence? Krall engineered the situation knowing the device was on board.
2. We all know what happens next. Do we absolutely need to see Scotty pull himself up?
3. A drone force is fine for taking out bigger enemies, but when you use kamikaze tactics you run out of ships eventually. Krall wanting a more dangerous (and inexhaustible?) weapon isn't dumb.
4. Already discussed ad nauseum, but arguably not an unfair point.
5. Almost everyone can name a classical composer.
6. It was Krall's voice that attracted Uhura's attention.
7. I don't disagree. The same has been said of the previous films too.
8. Feh.
9. Barely making a point here beyond "Scotty can figure out how to do stuff."
2. We all know what happens next. Do we absolutely need to see Scotty pull himself up?
3. A drone force is fine for taking out bigger enemies, but when you use kamikaze tactics you run out of ships eventually. Krall wanting a more dangerous (and inexhaustible?) weapon isn't dumb.
4. Already discussed ad nauseum, but arguably not an unfair point.
5. Almost everyone can name a classical composer.
6. It was Krall's voice that attracted Uhura's attention.
7. I don't disagree. The same has been said of the previous films too.
8. Feh.
9. Barely making a point here beyond "Scotty can figure out how to do stuff."
I think you have to forfeit that, same as me.
Uhura recognizing his voice literally is the narrative reason why she interacted with him so much, besides the fact that she represented starfleet in a sense and reminded Krall what he was against. Every bad guy deep down wants to get told he is right, and her challenging him a bit probably made him admire her and want to change her mind (and I yes, that's not silly or too convenient that he didn't kill her asap because from a villain perspective it wasn't fun and too easy to kill her; can you imagine how boring his life was? he had the whole enterprise to use anyway)
as for her aural sensivity (fyi that's the ability to discern sounds others have a hard time recognizing), that was established in the first movie when she intercepted that transmission ..and heard Kirk breathing under Gaila's bed.
That's a skill that for someone with her job is pretty useful, not to mention her job pretty much giving a hint how she further developed it.
as for her aural sensivity (fyi that's the ability to discern sounds others have a hard time recognizing), that was established in the first movie when she intercepted that transmission ..and heard Kirk breathing under Gaila's bed.
That's a skill that for someone with her job is pretty useful, not to mention her job pretty much giving a hint how she further developed it.
Indeed! I've heard a few people say that Uhura's discovery was a bit too convenient, but all that does is make me very confused as to why no one picked up on this.
It's a particularly odd complaint when it's the word 'Frontier' - the word emphasised in his grand anti-Federation statement - she picks up on and plays with.
It honestly makes me wonder if people pay attention any more.
If there's one thing the Doctor Who forums taught me (other than the fact that GallifreyBase is staffed by the most humorless entities in the universe), it's that 99% of these "this made no sense!" threads actually should be titled "I wasn't paying attention".
Sadly, I don't even think it's that. Women have been more than eye candy in a fair chunk of films, it's just this weird expectation to be spoon fed everything.
It's not dissimilar from news headlines and social media. Most people these days read a headline and only inform themselves from those few words, only to form a hardline solidified opinion thats often contradictory to the news they never actually bothered reading.
With films I've noticed a lot of people doing the same thing. We've stopped listening to certain friends opinions as they only seem to glance at the screen, absorb nothing and make their entire opinion of it based on the few snipprs they can pay attention to that don't have a joke or explosion :/
I am very glad I'm not the only one who's felt that way on that board!
That, and the persistent expectation of so many people that movies should explain everything (if they don't, then it's a plot hole)
Yes! At times I wonder if films will eventually end up with massive cue cards like Mark Hamil's introduction in Jay & silent Bob Strike Back.
Weirdly, Into Darkness has one that bugs me - there's a part of the film where people still rant about a massive plothole. But that 'plothole' is actually covered by actions and dialogue.
Ahh, memories of the "Plot Hole City" threads.That, and the persistent expectation of so many people that movies should explain everything (if they don't, then it's a plot hole)
[rodserling] Imagine, if you will, a world in which all i's are to be dotted, all t's crossed, all loose threads neatly tied up, etc. Nothing whatsoever is to be left to the imagination and the audience is never under any circumstances to be left wanting more. There's the signpost up ahead! Next stop... The Twilight Zone! [/serling]
Oh, there was a little of that, certainly, but it accounted for maybe, what... a minute of the total running time? The other six minutes was pretty much "guy with a YouTube channel who loves listening to himself talk... and talk... and talk." Now, a little smartass humor can be just the thing in a review or nitpick rundown, but it's also easily overdone. This clip would have been a better job if it had A) been quite a bit tighter and B) used more restraint with the comedic padding.I thought this was a fun examination of the movie through a microscope.
As if no other Star Trek movies have 'dumb' moments. You can get to Vulcan in a day and destroy a crazy Romulan cos the galaxy is the size of the Sol system. If we can swallow that we can swallow the rest.
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