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Dumb and Bizarre Trek Novel Moments...

I think Laas may have gone to warp in "Chimera," but I'm not sure if I trust my memory on that one.

Yes, I think he was pacing the Runabout while at low warp speeds. But we've seen in Trek a number of space-borne entities ("cosmozoans", as Christopher called them) capable of unassisted faster-than-light travel, like the crystalline entity. If the Founders are familiar with such species, then they just duplicate whatever biological properties allow such creatures to organically reach warp.
Well, if there is a precident than that's a bit different, but still, just cause the "cosmozoans" can do something does that mean the Founders should be able to replicate it? Should they be able to replicate the things a Q can do as well?
 
I don't think Qs have a form; likely they are beings of pure thought, which cannot be replicated by material creatures. But if even an unexperienced changeling like Odo can replicate the function of complex organs like the eye or a bird's wings, then I wouldn't think it too much a stress to think that more experience changelings can duplicate even whatever organs allow these creatures to do what they do after some study.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
Just about every page of The Good That Men Do, Kobayashi Maru and Before Dishonor and the New Fronteir books I've read were filled with Dumb and Bizarre Trek Moments.

Not really dumb, and this has been hashed out a lot in other threads..but I still find Picards actions in Destiny to be bizarre though I still enjoyed the trilogy quite a bit.

Here There be Dragons, when Picard fights the Dragonzzzzzzzzz :rolleyes:

A good chunk of the Shatnerverse stuff is dumb and bizarre. Still they are a guilty pleasure for me, I admit it. Kirks wife and son were the worst, or maybe tied with the Borg lever. The Borg/Romulan alliance was pretty awful too. Mirror Kirk was painful.

I think the worst thing ever has to be "Bernie" from the DC Trek comics. Albino. Klingon. Midget. Mentally challenged. Terrible. Also anything involving Bearclaw.
 
I think the worst thing ever has to be "Bernie" from the DC Trek comics. Albino. Klingon. Midget. Mentally challenged. Terrible. Also anything involving Bearclaw.
LOL I have no idea to what this is refering but it sounds hilarious!
 
Ship Of The Line.... I mean come on now... Really. It's not just a moment but an entire novel. I expected better of that author. Very disappointing.

The IDIC Epidemic, the ending where the Klingon lad is accepted to Starfleet... Yeah. Nice on paper but given the state of relations between the powers it really couldn't have happened.

Can't think of any more ATM.
 
I do think the changelings at warp is pushing it a bit, but it is plausible, we've seen them do it on screen via Laas. We've also seen that they can take energetic forms implying that they have some degree of control in that regard.

We've also seen that they can inexplicably alter their mass as well as their shape, remember Odo as a drinking glass? (Also dumb, I know) It could be inferred that in order to accomplish these feats they are able to manipulate subspace somehow. If this is the case I don't see why warp, at least low warp, shouldn't be possible, though at would imagine it would work in much the same way it does for the Black Mass from New Frontier.
 
In any case, several of April's crew meet a Romulan in "Final Frontier". No one complains about him.

I got tired of complaining about Carey's April and about Final Frontier in general a long, long time ago. Haven't changed my mind at all, but there are more timely and important things to complain about all these years later.
 
But for sheer idiocy, I'll go for Spirit Walk, particularly the scene where Chakotay summons a black jaguar out of thin air to attack a changeling while his sister's fatal wounds are held together by the ghost of her dead boyfriend.

Holy shit. You have won the thread.
 
I'm not willing to call it out and out dumb, but it would have improved A Time to Heal if mention had been made of Section 31 having a hologram or some other imitation of Zife ready to impersonate him to throw off anyone investigating what happened to him after he left office.
 
A whole thread about bizarre Trek Novel moments, and nobody's yet mentioned How Much For Just The Planet? I'm shocked. :p

Also, as cool as The Final Reflection was, the description of that game the Klingons were playing is rather convoluted. To this day I still don't know what they're actually doing...

As for TGTMD: Didn't Trip *volunteer* to become a Section 31 agent? Just sayin'.
 
As for a couple books that were just big WTF moments all around, I'd go for The Prometheus Design and How Much for Just the Planet? I found reading both to be quite excruciating.

A whole thread about bizarre Trek Novel moments, and nobody's yet mentioned How Much For Just The Planet? I'm shocked.

Babaganoosh, meet Nerys Ghemor. Nerys Ghemor, Babaganoosh. :p (And I disagree with both of you, by the way - I loved that book!)
 
A whole thread about bizarre Trek Novel moments, and nobody's yet mentioned How Much For Just The Planet? I'm shocked. :p

Also, as cool as The Final Reflection was, the description of that game the Klingons were playing is rather convoluted. To this day I still don't know what they're actually doing...

As for TGTMD: Didn't Trip *volunteer* to become a Section 31 agent? Just sayin'.
With the fate of Earth at stake and a risk of provoking interplanetary war if discovered, don't you think they'd want someone a bit more applicable than a volunteer?
 
A coerced agent is not a good agent - not unless you've got serious motivation for him to do a good job, like a holding a family member hostage. That said, just because somebody says "I want to infiltrate Romulus" doesn't mean Earth's spymasters should just slap some forehead ridges and pointy ears on him and send him off.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
I'm sure that among the eager agents who believe in Section 31, there would have been someone quite willing and able to serve the job without any additional coersion
 
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