Spoilers DSC: Drastic Measures by Dayton Ward Review Thread
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Forbidden Planet, Waterstones and an independent bookshop all have Drastic Measures in here.
I gathered from your lack of finding it and your post the other day giving out that your local Waterstones wouldn't let you buy it.
I would assume a spelling error due to a pronunciation error.
They were supposed to fix that. 
The whole book is now ruined.They were supposed to fix that.
I finally got my copy of it. I’m about 150 pages into it so far. Really enjoying it so far. Is the Narbonne a Ptolemy class ship? Sounds like one.
I’m curious about this idea that the Enterprise and other Connies were classified ships, like the Vengeance in the JJVerse at this time. That sounds like a interesting premise to write a story on.
I get that impression as well but that’s not something they would reveal in a novel which makes me think Issacs is truly done with the series and his story will now be told in novel form. It’ll be a pity if so but I suppose it’ll get the writers more freedom with the character.
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Really enjoyed it. Surprised how small Kirk’s role was in this. I expected at least a few chapters from his perspective about the massacre but I suppose this is a STD book and not a TOS one.
One thing the book didn’t cover was Riley. Didn’t he also know what he looked like meaning he had to had some face time with Kodos.
Maybe I’m wrong and he was just on the planet. It’s been a while since I saw the episode.
Shannon is going to be kicking herself later on for not interviewing Kirk. He becomes a big deal later on.
Speaking of Kirk, we get a little info about his Dad saying that he’s always on secret operations. Perhaps he was a Section 31 agent.
One thing the book didn’t cover was Riley. Didn’t he also know what he looked like meaning he had to had some face time with Kodos.
Maybe I’m wrong and he was just on the planet. It’s been a while since I saw the episode.
Shannon is going to be kicking herself later on for not interviewing Kirk. He becomes a big deal later on.
Speaking of Kirk, we get a little info about his Dad saying that he’s always on secret operations. Perhaps he was a Section 31 agent.
Eh, I'm pretty fine with the book not showing us Riley on top of everything else, since he was much younger than both Jimmy and Tommy, and would've turned the whole thing into a gratuitous fanservice-checklist. Surely Georgiou and Lorca didn't personally speak to every single last survivor of the colony during their time there, after all.
Also, the references to George Kirk were in relation to him being posted aboard the Enterprise, whose existence, belonging to the new Constitution-class, was still apparently being kept a semi-classified secret by Starfleet at that point in time.
Also, the references to George Kirk were in relation to him being posted aboard the Enterprise, whose existence, belonging to the new Constitution-class, was still apparently being kept a semi-classified secret by Starfleet at that point in time.
And given we didn't see it, the most reasonable assumption is that Riley's story is pretty much the same as Leighton's; whole family gets picked, the kid runs off or is sent back, but he's there long enough to see Kodos.
Honestly, the whole "eyewitness" angle doesn't quite make sense even in the episode, since they explicitly have a photo (even if only one) and an audio recording of him (though the episode predates the time when we learned conclusively that eyewitnesses were the least reliable form of evidence, rather than the most). The novel helps with adding all the modern touches about Kodos wiping his digital trail and switching out his DNA sample, and the eyewitness thing is easy to paper over as Leonor not thinking clearly, and the fact that "Karidian" was never discovered can just be chalked up to the fact that it's a big galaxy, big enough that, statistically speaking, nine people who've actually seen you isn't that different from four thousand who are the only ones with sufficient motivation to remember your voice and image in such detail as to identify you on sight.
Honestly, the whole "eyewitness" angle doesn't quite make sense even in the episode, since they explicitly have a photo (even if only one) and an audio recording of him (though the episode predates the time when we learned conclusively that eyewitnesses were the least reliable form of evidence, rather than the most). The novel helps with adding all the modern touches about Kodos wiping his digital trail and switching out his DNA sample, and the eyewitness thing is easy to paper over as Leonor not thinking clearly, and the fact that "Karidian" was never discovered can just be chalked up to the fact that it's a big galaxy, big enough that, statistically speaking, nine people who've actually seen you isn't that different from four thousand who are the only ones with sufficient motivation to remember your voice and image in such detail as to identify you on sight.
I have read the first 100 pages. It is well written and I’m loving the characterization of both Lorca and Georgiou, but I am finding it hard to care about the plot as we know that Kodos escapes for twenty years. It is killing the dramatic tension for me as it feels like I am reading a mystery where the ending is known which is making it hard for me to engage with the plot for another 300 pages...
I thought the book was supposed to be a gratuitous fan service.
I agree that they wouldn’t have talked to everyone but the interviewer probably would have and that would have been a good place to add his story.
I wasn’t aware George served on the Enterprise. Where is that mentioned?
Very obliquely. There are the bits at the beginning of the book that details regarding the missions and positioning of Connies was classified, and then when we meet the Kirks, Winona mentions George is off on some secret mission and they aren't sure if he's even heard about what happened on the colony, never mind that they were both fine.
The notion of the Constitution-class being kept classified around this period originally comes from Diane Carey's previous TOS novels (particularly Final Frontier and also to a certain extent Best Destiny), and the former novel first established George Kirk as being Robert April's executive officer aboard the Enterprise during the mid-2240s.I thought the book was supposed to be a gratuitous fan service.
I agree that they wouldn’t have talked to everyone but the interviewer probably would have and that would have been a good place to add his story.
I wasn’t aware George served on the Enterprise. Where is that mentioned?
And David cgc is correct -- it's implied more than outright stated in the book that George Kirk is serving aboard the Enterprise at this point, but it seems that Dayton was probably being consistent with previous sources here, or at least that was how I interpreted it.
Really? You'd think his father also serving on the Enterprise would come up more often.
Must be after his stint on the Kelvin. A ship I hope looks radically different than the JJVerse version.
It wasn't my intention that George Kirk be on the Enterprise at this point in time. Best Destiny makes it seem as though he's not been aboard the ship since the events of Final Frontier.
So I'm right. Must be on a other classified ship. Must be the Vengeance.
Didn't realize there were Betazoids in Starfleet that early on. i always thought they were a 24th century addition. Seems rather uncool of them to hide their telepathic powers. They could have been quite useful here.
Also Lorca's speech at the end sort of gives the impression that the Vulcans were helpful during the ENT era. Archer and Tucker would strongly disagree there. They didn't even help during the Romulan War.
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