DS9 Novels?

[SuperXPS]

I'm sure, like everything this has come up before but...I saw no threads on it.

Whats happening with DS9?
The novels were good then went on a wierd unfollowable unreadable and confusing tangent into a mix of the prophets and the mirror universe.

I gather that Kira retired and Ro is captain and a lot of characters they spent time building up like Vaughn and Nog are dead or transferred, so whats happening?
Is there anything gonna fill in the gap maybe show us what they were doing during the borg invasion or show some normal stories in universe that don't involve the prophets?

I really hate whats been done to Sisko , that he didn't take DS9 back and has become a real debbie downer, I'd like to see him back on ds9...

Anyone know what the plans are for the series?

 

[JD]

Not really, the only thing we know is that DRGIII has said on Facebook that his next two-parter will involve DS9 elements along with stuff from other series.

 

[zarkon]

Yeah, DS9 seems a bit of a lost cause right now.

Probably spoilers below for people who aren't up to date.

As said there's no Kira, then we have Sisko who has had a spine removal and is captaining a ship, Jadzia's dead, Worf's on the ent e, Odo's in gamma, Bashir's in a fairly meh specops storyline, Garak's gone home, Rom's Nagus, O' Brien's god knows where, still on cardassia(although I guess he at least can come back fairly smoothly, can't remember if keiko vetoed ever returning)?

I think Quark's the only decent TV character who may still be there. Not even sure how many of the relaunch characters are still knocking around...

 

[mindx2]

Man, that's really depressing. The DS9 relaunch is what got me back into TrekLit after many, many years. From A Stitch In Time up to Warpath was some of the best reading I've done in the Trek Universe, not so much the last two novels. The way the authors were able to use the existing characters and introduce (and make us care about) new characters was great. I wish an author of Kirsten Beyer's caliber would come along and be given permission to bring the station crew back for another run!

 

[Trek]

While I enjoyed "Zero Sum Game", I though that "Rough Beasts of Empire" was one of the worst trek books I'd read in a while.

Sisko was massively out of character and the part he played in the main plot could have been played by any cookie cutter Captain. I kept wanting to grab him by the shoulders and shake him until he snapped out of it.

At this point I'd really love to see a book or duology of books that filled in the missing years between "The Soul Key" the Typhon pact books, like "Full Circle" did for Voyager. I really want to see the pay-off from the years of set-up.

 

[Mage]

I suppose I belong to the group that believes Sisko's actions aren't out of character, and actually quite understandable for people who have delt with depressions themselves. And I'm not talking about 'I feel down and should take some pills' depression, I'm talking about the real deal. In his life, Sisko has a history of running away from things. He ran when Jennifer died, he ran when Jadzia died, he was about to run away again when the prophets warned him about marrieng Kassidy. Now that things in life where going downhill again, he (like people who suffer from depression often do) started to blame himself and started running again.

Am I saying he's doing the right thing? No. But is it in character for a man with a history of depression. Oh yeah, very much so.

 

[Edit_XYZ]

The newest books haven't been kind to many established characters:

We have Picard's embarassing performance in 'Destiny';
Bashir killing in cold blood in 'Zero Sum Game';
Sisko being a spineless, absentee husband and father;
Spock allowing himself to be used as a pawn by a praetor and by the tzencheti, all in order to progress a movement which he admits is likely to result in vulcan seceeding from the federation.

 

[Cybersnark]

I think Quark's the only decent TV character who may still be there. Not even sure how many of the relaunch characters are still knocking around...

Shar returned to Andor, Vaughn is a vegetable. Taran'Atar was last seen in the Delta Quadrant, so no telling where he is. Tenmei appears to still be there (she regularly visits her father's bedside, so I assume she lives aboard the station). Treir is probably still around, as is Major Cenn, though we haven't heard from/about them. Vic is most likely still there.

And of course Morn is still there. It's not over until Morn leaves.

 

[Rush Limborg]

Ezri's captain of the Aventine. They've got that going for them...though they don't seem to use her that much, character-wise--she's mostly just there.

 

[Thrawn]

I thought she was great in Destiny; it was so weird that Mack did absolutely nothing with her in Zero Sum Game.

 

[Kinggodzillak]

I'd been (very) slowly working my way through the early relaunch books, but hearing about the recent developments on the station doesn't really make me want to carry on, especially if all the characters are gone. Any series that can casually skip over five years of plot and throw out all its characters the way DS9 has apparently done doesn't really seem worth bothering with...

 

[DorkBoy [TM]]

The DS9 relaunch is still worth reading. Up until (and including) Unity, they had a very tight arc that was brought to a satisfying conclusion. I would read at least that far.

After Unity things began to fall apart. Worlds of DS9 introduced a lot of new ongoing threads, many of which are still not tied up yet. They had trouble tying up the mirror universe story (a book was rejected and had to be rewritten or something?) so the books were spread out over several years, and the Dominion side of things never got followed up on.

I still have hope that someone will continue the stories and finish it out.

They didn't throw out the characters, either, they've all (almost all) just moved on to other series.

 

[Lindley]

I'd been (very) slowly working my way through the early relaunch books, but hearing about the recent developments on the station doesn't really make me want to carry on, especially if all the characters are gone. Any series that can casually skip over five years of plot and throw out all its characters the way DS9 has apparently done doesn't really seem worth bothering with...

To be fair, that isn't really the fault of the Relaunch to that point. It was a combination of the reduction in books-per-month and the other relaunches appearing on the scene. After a while, DS9 was simply a few years behind the TNG and VOY books, and the decision was made to time-jump it into sync.

That's not to say we won't see more about what happened in between in the future.

 

[JD]

The newest books haven't been kind to many established characters:

We have Picard's embarassing performance in 'Destiny';
Bashir killing in cold blood in 'Zero Sum Game';
Sisko being a spineless, absentee husband and father;
Spock allowing himself to be used as a pawn by a praetor and by the tzencheti, all in order to progress a movement which he admits is likely to result in vulcan seceeding from the federation.

I don't know, I thought all of that stuff made perfect sense in context. I'll admit, I was a little unsure about the Bashir one, but after reading some of the stuff in the threads about it after it came out, I realized that the whole point of that scene was that Bashir was not acting the way we usually see him act. The whole point to the book was to show this change.
As for the Sisko one, I really feel that once again in context it made perfect sense. Sure it might have seemed odd if you don't take into account all of the things that had happened since we saw him, but once you look at all of the crap that he went through between The Soul Key and RBoE, and his state of mind at the beginning of RBoE it makes perfect sense. By the time he leaves, he is completely convinced that his being near his family will put them in danger. And I thought it was made very clear in the story, that he did not actually want to leave his family, but felt that it was the only way to protect them.

 

[Kinggodzillak]

To be fair, that isn't really the fault of the Relaunch to that point. It was a combination of the reduction in books-per-month and the other relaunches appearing on the scene. After a while, DS9 was simply a few years behind the TNG and VOY books, and the decision was made to time-jump it into sync.

Yes, I think that might be part of the problem, actually. It just gives me the impression that if huge chunks of the story can be glossed over like that then the story's not really worth getting involved with, book after book, year after year - and even if I did get back into it, it's not impossible that DS9 could slip behind the others again and they'd skip over more a few years down the line. Not likely, I know, but if they did it once...

They didn't throw out the characters, either, they've all (almost all) just moved on to other series.

That's something else I can't get behind. Why can't we have DS9 characters in DS9 books? Are Bashir and Quark (oh, and Morn) really the only DS9 tv show characters still on the station? The station itself isn't particularly interesting on it's own, and try as I might I can't really bring myself to care about any of the new characters the way I did the tv ones.

And from what I hear you have characters like Kira, Odo, O'Brien and Garak who have gotten lost in the shuffle for one reason or another.

Actually it's probably my own fault; back when Janeway was killed off I dared to be selfish and thought "Well, at least my favourite Trek character's safe. She's the main character in the DS9 novels, she's in charge of the station and everything. Nothing bad's going to happen to Kira."

Now suddenly she's off the station and - no matter what comes next - her role in the series is drastically reduced. Which is a shame, I think. As is what I hear about Sisko.

I know, I know, I should actually read the books rather than just go by hearsay...but I haven't really heard anything about their recent direction to make me want to read them. Quite the opposite, actually...

 

[Therin of Andor]

I kept wanting to grab him by the shoulders and shake him until he snapped out of it.

Author's intent?

 

[Therin of Andor]

IAny series that can casually skip over five years of plot and throw out all its characters the way DS9 has apparently done doesn't really seem worth bothering with...

Hahaha.

Anyone recall several years of TrekBBS complaints: "When will DS9 catch up with all the other 24th century books?" "When will DS9 catch up with all the other 24th century books?" "When will DS9 catch up with all the other 24th century books?" "When will DS9 catch up with all the other 24th century books?" "When will DS9 catch up with all the other 24th century books?" "When will DS9 catch up with all the other 24th century books?"

 

[Rush Limborg]

I thought she was great in Destiny; it was so weird that Mack did absolutely nothing with her in Zero Sum Game.

That's my point. Aside from that scene with Julian, she's just "there". No character growth (after that scene, she sure could have used some), no arc for her...nothing.

She has a few cute moments in A Singular Destiny, with the "jam session" sequence, Empress Donatra (RIP), and in the ready room, when she reflects on the problem of her desk chair being too high for her feet to reach the floor....

KRAD handles her beautifully. I read Singular with a smile, constantly thinking, "That's the Ezri I know and love."

Destiny handled her pretty well--though I admit to taking issue with her use of "colorful metaphors". I got a big kick out of her eating a sundae in Picard's lounge in the end--and her giving Riker a light peck on the cheek.

Still, ZSG left a LOT to be desired.

 

[Thrawn]

^ In a rare occurrence, I find myself agreeing completely with one of your posts!

 

[Rush Limborg]

Well, under the circumstances...I'd say Star Trek brings people together.