DS9 Morality Survey: The Sequel! (Spoilers)

[DS9 Fan 2]

Considering the fact that there were many ethical questions left unasked in my last survey , I've created a new one to cover even more questions. It works the same as last time, which also means that there are indeed spoilers about various parts of the series.

On a minor note, today marks my 4th year on this BBS. So, thanks for keeping me around!

Anywho, hope you enjoy! Let's get started!

 

[DS9 Fan 2]

BTW, that was Kai Opaka not "Kai Opake"...please forgive the typo.

 

[Kevin Fajo]

Another wonderful poll.

This one had a few no-brainers for me because I usually agree or disagree as soon as I watch an episode. Mulling over certain aspects is fun but its more fun for me to make the decision right away as if it were my own. I tend to agree with characters but there are times when the writing of the series is so complex and intricate that disagreeing makes you like them even more!

I was the only one so far to think Kai Winn redeemed herself in the very end. She did try to stop Dukat by destroying the book but it was too late for her and her limited capacity. I have always loved Winn so she was redeemed in my eyes but she still needed to die.

I am Undecided on Worf saving Jadzia in "Change of Heart" because it is a no-win situation. Other than that one, I made up my mind on all the other ones.

Keep em coming! There is more moral ambiguity to be found.

 

[Jared]

Posted by Kevin Fajo:
I am Undecided on Worf saving Jadzia in "Change of Heart" because it is a no-win situation. Other than that one, I made up my mind on all the other ones.

I agree. And I wonder how it would have been diferent if it had been Worf and Kira who had gone, would he have left her to die? Or Worf and Julian, or O'Brian for that matter really.

 

[Xevious]

I was undecided on more of the first one. The only one here I chose undecided for was Worf's decision in Change of Heart. He definitely made the wrong choice... but I can understand and empathize with his situation. There wasn't an acceptable solution either way... it's a tough call.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

Posted by Jared:

Posted by Kevin Fajo:
I am Undecided on Worf saving Jadzia in "Change of Heart" because it is a no-win situation. Other than that one, I made up my mind on all the other ones.

I agree. And I wonder how it would have been diferent if it had been Worf and Kira who had gone, would he have left her to die? Or Worf and Julian, or O'Brian for that matter really.

That is an excellent point, Jared! An excellent point!

I think that's really what the "grey area" is in this one. The situation was no-win....but would he have chosen differently if he'd been with someone else?

As for me...I've not voted yet. I have to think about a couple of these, but will be voting later today.

 

[Kukalaka]

^^

Well I don't entirely understand why Kira would send a husband and wife out there. Why doesn't starfleet have rules on such things?

Ku

 

[Fencer]

^^ Well, judging by TNG's "Lessons" and Sisko's little talk at the end of the episode there doesn't appear to be anything in the regulations regarding personal realtions between officers. This is odd because in Real World militaries there are regulations governing the limits of relationships between officers (basically not permissible between a CO and an underling). So no, they shouldn't have been in the same commnad let alone being sent out on missions togther.

On the poll I do find it intresting that most people think that they Rejoining Taboo should have been ignored. Seems awfully Humanocentric!

 

[Xevious]

Posted by KuSidcity:
^^

Well I don't entirely understand why Kira would send a husband and wife out there. Why doesn't starfleet have rules on such things?

Ku

They do now.

 

[PKTrekGirl]

^ Of that, there can be no doubt!

 

[tomalak301]

DS9 Fan 2, congradulations on 4 years.

Second, great poll again. This poll was a lot harder than the last one and it showed just how hard and complex a lot of the moral descisions on DS9 really were.

Third, I guess I was the only one to aknowledge that Odo had been saduced by the Female Founder and he couldn't help it. Yeah, maybe it might have been a lapse in judgement, but think about it. Say you were in Odo's position. You have been an outsider all your life, and there is an oppurtunity to finally learn more about the life you could have had. I don't know about anyone else, but my cariousity would make me jump at such an oppurtunity. Yeah, the founders were evil xhenophobes, but what Odo did was totally in character. He did say he had a strong desire to return home after all.

 

[anti-matter]

If I were married to Jadzia I would have saved her in a heartbeat. Who’s to say the Cardassian wasn’t a double agent? But Sisko was correct …they should have never gone on that mission together.

Many happy returns on your 4 year anniversary DS9 Fan 2.

 

[The Cutest of Borg]

These polls are great. I'm just waiting for the part that tells me how screwed up my moral compass is based on my answers.

 

[Montresor]

The ones I personally found toughest to answers are the ones involving saving certain lives by sacrificing certain others (Worf and Opaka's decisions). I don't think I'd want to be put in a position where I had to decide who should die so others could live; I don't know that I quite buy into the whole "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" philosophy. I mean, "the few" usually have as much right to live as "the many", so why should someone have the right to simply go by the numbers? That's why I'd never want to be in the military or in politics, where decisions like that have to be made often.

 

[MvRojo]

Definitely harder to answer than any other series.

 

[eastman23]

Another good survey DS9 Fan 2. Just a few ones that I would like to mention how I voted:

Rugal - They should have respected his wishes in the matter. It's a simple as that.

Paradise Lost - No justification here. You don't save a paradise by taking it over with the military.

Change of Heart - I disagree with Worf's actions (after some thought), but I really can't say that I wouldn't have done the same thing.

Kai Winn - I guess I'm in the minority that says that she redeemed herself in the end.

 

[kevsthaman]

Good poll & congrats on 4 years DS9 Fan 2!

Yep, there are definitely some ambiguous situations here. One thing that caught my attention tho was the Klingon suicide ceremony with Kurn. Like the Trill cultural tradition regarding former former mates, there should be some respect for the Klingon suicide ritual. But since Federation is strict to any form of killing, I figured Worf would've learned from his attempt on the Enterprise and taken Kurn off the station. Heck, go to a Klingon monastery or just somplace where no one else is around. Oh well, guess there wouldn't have been a story then

 

[Computer Voice]

I was undecided on more of these than the first one. Another good poll!

 

[Kevin Fajo]

Posted by KuSidcity:
^^

Well I don't entirely understand why Kira would send a husband and wife out there. Why doesn't starfleet have rules on such things?

Ku

I think I can answer this question just from what I remember in the episode. Worf and Jadzia were sent just as a contact in the runabout. Kira probably didn't see any problem with that. It was only when the Cardassian informant told Jadzia and Worf that he had to get off Sukara RIGHT NOW that made them jump into rescue team mode.

Had the mission been rescue all along, I think Kira might have made another choice. It would have made the episode less dramatic which is why it wasn't rescue from the start. Had the Cardassian told Starfleet he needed to be rescued, a married couple would not have been sent to a dangerous planet to retreive him.

The writers usually have a little bit of urgency in place to keep everything logical and let Kira off the hook in my opinion in this instance.

 

[Kukalaka]

^^

OH!

I didn't realize we were allowed to play that card.



Ku